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Lockerbie bomber begs Britain for cancer drugs two years after he was freed as a dying man

By Vanessa Allen
Last updated at 12:22 AM on 30th August 2011

The Lockerbie bomber’s family have made an astonishing appeal to Britain for medical help to prolong his life.
Abdelbaset Al Megrahi is said to be slipping in and out of a coma two years after he was released from a Scottish prison, supposedly with three months to live.
Relatives claim his prostate cancer drugs were stolen by rebels after they seized control of the Libyan capital Tripoli, where the family live in a large villa.


Coma: Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, who was convicted of the murder of 270 people in the 1988 airliner bombing, is surviving on an intravenous drip in a room in his family's palatial villa

Megrahi, 59, is believed to have been taking a drug which costs £3,000 a month and is not licensed in Europe.

With the fall of the Gaddafi regime, which funded him, his supply from the US has been interrupted so his family are asking Scotland to supply the same chemotherapy medicine he received before his release.


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The request will anger relatives of the 270 killed in the bombing of Pan Am flight 103, some of whom have called for Megrahi to be extradited back to Britain to serve the rest of his sentence.
But his brother Abdul told the Daily Mail yesterday: ‘He went to court, he’s been tried by law. Shame on those who ask for him to go to court again. We never thought they could be so cruel. They should respect him as a human. He’s a man in a coma.’

Abdul added: ‘We asked for medicine from Scotland on Sunday, but we have not had any reply. Most of the medicines he needs are expensive and we can’t find them in Tripoli. The revolutionaries stole most of it on the first day they came into Tripoli.


Colonel Gaddafi's son Saif leads the hero's welcome for Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi on his return to Libya from Scotland on August 20, 2009


He denied rumours that his brother had fled Libya with Colonel Gaddafi, and insisted he was inside the family’s villa


Al-Megrahi pictured looking frail and in a wheelchair in his room at a hospital in Tripoli back in September 9, 2009 as families raged at his release


He said Megrahi was being kept alive with oxygen and an intravenous drip, but desperately needed more medicine.
Megrahi was last seen in public at a televised Gaddafi in Tripoli last month, staged to support Gaddafi.
The US broadcaster CNN filmed Megrahi inside the villa on Sunday as the National Transitional Council sought to quell rumours that he had fled the country. CNN reporter Nic Robertson said: ‘He appears to be a shell of the man that he was, far sicker than he appeared before … at death’s door.’
Relatives of those killed when the Pan Am flight exploded over Lockerbie in 1988 were divided over what should happen to Megrahi, the only man convicted over the atrocity. Frank Duggan, president of the Victims of Pan Am Flight 103 group, said: ‘The gall of this monster is beyond understanding.
‘There’s no way the Scots should go along with this request – they’ve done more than enough for him already. This miserable little murderer was living in a virtual country club while in jail in Scotland – with his family nearby, his own kitchen and prayer room, cable TV and other home comforts. Now he wants more help.

‘We’re not vengeful people – we believe Megrahi should have been allowed to die in a prison hospital. By all means bring him back to Scotland, if that can now be done.
‘We’ve heard many times before that Megrahi is close to death and I don’t believe he’s as sick as his family are making out.’
However Dr Jim Swire, whose 23-year-old daughter Flora died in the atrocity, said Megrahi should be left in Libya to die in peace.


Crime: Megrahi is the only person convicted of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie on 22 December 1988

The retired GP said: ‘He should have been accorded a peaceful end in Tripoli with his family. The idea of extraditing him is a monstrous one… He deserves to be left in peace for his last days.’

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Professor Robert Black, an Edinburgh University legal expert and one of the bomber’s leading supporters, said he should receive any available help.
He said: ‘Anything we can do to alleviate the suffering of an innocent man – including giving him drugs that may not be available here – we should do.’
Scottish Tory deputy leader Murdo Fraser said: ‘If Megrahi is in urgent need of medical attention he should be returned to Greenock jail where he will get a very high standard of medical care in conditions of comparative safety.
‘It would be simply outrageous if there was any suggestion that Megrahi should receive treatments that are not available to people living in Scotland and it will cause real upset to cancer sufferers and their families in the UK.’
The National Transitional Council has ruled out sending Megrahi back to Britain and Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond said his government had no intention of seeking Megrahi’s return.
He said the investigation into the bombing remained open and the Scottish Crown Office would investigate any new evidence.
Cancer specialists have claimed the decision to release Megrahi from Greenock Prison on compassionate grounds was based on flawed medical evidence.
His brother said: ‘What’s the difference if he dies here or there? It’s just one life. I know some people think he’s not really dying but they don’t know anything. They haven’t seen him.
‘The cancer has already spread to his liver. He can’t walk. He looks like he is 100 years old.’
East Renfrewshire council and the Scottish government issued a joint statement saying there had been contact through Megrahi’s family over the weekend.
The authorities refused to confirm or deny if the family had appealed for medical help, and insisted they had not funded or helped with his medical treatment since his return to Libya.



A LUXURY VILLA 'BUT WE'RE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER LIBYAN FAMILY

At the Megrahi villa in an exclusive area of Tripoli, olive and palm trees grow in the courtyard behind tall security gates which protect his family from the public gaze.
But yesterday his brother insisted the family – said to have been bankrolled by the Gaddafi regime – were ‘ordinary Libyans’.



Abdul said: ‘We’re the same as all the Libyan people. They have no water, we have no water. They have no electricity, we have no electricity. We’re just the same.’
He said 11 members of the extended family lived inside the gated compound, where there are signs of another three-storey house being built next door.
He said his brother should be allowed to die in peace at the home, insisting he was ‘very sick’ and might not even be aware that rebels had taken control of Tripoli.
‘He can’t walk or speak more than a few words. He’s in a coma.
‘We don’t talk to him about the war. He just asks for food or water, or to see his family.
‘All the professional doctors say he’s going to die. Now the doctors don’t come any more.’





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Libya live

Live coverage of Libya as Algeria's foreign ministry states Gaddafi's wife and three children have fled across the border and the relatives of Lockerbie victims respond to the discovery of Abdel Basset al-Megrahi in Tripoli.

By Matthew Moore, and Barney Henderson
7:00PM BST 29 Aug 2011
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• Gaddafi's son Khamis killed in clashes, claim rebels
• Col Gaddafi's wife two sons and daughter 'have fled to Algeria'
• Nato countries say 'joint action' against Gaddafi must continue
• Rebel chief says dictator 'still capable of doing something awful'
• Scottish government: no plans to extradite Lockerbie bomber
• Megrahi 'close to death' after tracked down to Tripoli home
• Opposition fighters advance on Sirte, and plan to 'starve' town

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20.40 Rob Crilly, our man on the ground in Benghazi, gives some reaction to the news that Gaddafi's wife Sofia and children Hannibal, Mohammed and Aisha have fled to Algeria.

There'll be little surprise in Libya that Gaddafi's wife and three of his children have arrived in Algeria. Benghazi has been buzzing for days with unconfirmed reports of armoured cars crisscrossing the desert on the way to the border in the far south-west.

Most speculation puts Colonel Gaddafi himself somewhere in the south-west too. The thing I can't work out - what's in it for Algeria? Presumably pots of cash... but can that be enough to balance the international outrage that would follow the Colonel's arrival in Algiers?


20.28 Here is a picture of Khamis Gaddafi, who was infamous for leading the nation's most feared militia - the Khamis Brigade. The rebels claimed they had killed Khamis Gaddafi earlier this month but he was then shown alive and well on Libyan television.


Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi's youngest son Khamis AP


20.15 BREAKING Rebel commander claims Gaddafi's son Khamis has been killed during fighting in southen Libya.

19.35 Libya's de facto government considers Algeria's sheltering of members of Muammar Gaddafi's family an act of aggression and will seek their extradition, a National Transitional Council spokesman said on Monday. Here is the statement spokesman Mahmoud Shamman told Reuters:

We have promised to provide a just trial to all those criminals and therefore we consider this an act of aggression.

We are warning anybody not to shelter Gaddafi and his sons. We are going after them in any place to find them and arrest them.

We consider what Algeria did as an act of aggression against the ambitions of the Libyan people. We will take the necessary measures in light of this. We will ask for their extradition.

19.18 The Libyan rebels will reportedly seek the extradition of Gaddafi family members from Algeria.

19.07 Libya's rebels say Algeria's sheltering of the Gaddafi family is an "act of aggression", Reuters reports.

18.42 The Egyptian news agency MENA, quoting unidentified rebel fighters, had reported from Tripoli over the weekend that six armored Mercedes sedans, possibly carrying Gadhafi's sons or other top regime figures, had crossed the border at the southwestern Libyan town of Ghadamis into Algeria.

18.30 Rob Crilly - The Telegraph's man in Benghazi, eastern Libya reports:

Rebels have said they believe Gaddafi may have fled to the Sahara desert close to the border with Algeria. Brigadier-General Abdusalam al-Hasi, the head of the country’s special forces before he joined the rebel uprising in February, said he believed the vanquished leader was with Touareg allies in the south-west of the country, close to the border with Algeria. “The Touareg are supporting Gaddafi so I think he’s there,” he said at his headquarters in the rebel capital of Benghazi, indicating a swath of desert land to the south-west of the loyalist stronghold of Sabha.


18.06 Col Gaddafi's wife, two sons and a daughter entered Algeria this morning, the foreign ministry in Algiers announced. Here is the statement:

The wife of Moamer Kadhafi, Sofia, his daughter Aisha, and sons Hannibal and Mohammed, accompanied by their children, entered Algeria at 08:45 am (0745 GMT) through the Algeria-Libyan border.

17.40 Khamis Gaddafi, whose personal militia allegedly executed dozens of political prisoners in the days before Tripoli fell to the rebels, may be added to the International Criminal Court's most wanted list. Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo told Reuters that he is considering applying for an arrest warrant for Col Gaddafi's son. His father, and brother Saif, are already on the most wanted list.

17.19 Telegraph TV now have footage of Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minister, outlining why his government has no plans to push for the extradition of Megrahi:

17.04 Tripoli may be running out of food, water and fuel, but at least the rebels are being creative with their checkpoints. Alex Thomson, Channel 4's respected chief correspondent, has picked out his favourite barricades on the streets of the Libyan capital. His verdict:

Personally I felt Water Tank Check won through for satirical comment in a city without any water, whilst Wooden Table Check points to more peaceful but let’s face it duller times when the bureaucrats have replaced the revolutionaries.

16.47 In an earlier update we mentioned the curious album of Gaddafi family photos discovered in a basement of the former dictator's wrecked Bab al-Aziziya compound by a New York Times journalist. They are worth clicking through in full - but to give you a flavour here's a similar image found at the same compound by the AFP agency, showing a young Col Gaddafi at an unspecified family event:



16.28 The meeting of countries who provided military support to the rebels has just broken up in Qatar, with a commitment to continue the offensive against Col Gaddafi's remaining forces. According to the AFP agency, the chiefs of staff at the summit agreed that the war was far from over, and pledged further "joint action".

15.40 A little more from the Foreign Office on their plans to re-establish a British Embassy in Tripoli. There hasn't been an official UK presence in the Libyan capital since diplomats were withdrawn at the height of the Arab Spring. The FCO statement reads:


A small FCO-led team, consisting of diplomatic and technical staff, is now on the ground in Tripoli as part of the preparations for that wider diplomatic presence. This reflects the recent military progress which means that some members of the NTC have already moved to Tripoli. We remain in regular consultation with the NTC about our plans.

15.25 Rebel forces are approaching Col Gaddafi's hometown stronghold of Sirte from east and west, but progress is reportedly slow. The Reuters news agency says that the rebels' attempts to negotiate a peaceful surrender of the city are being complicated by troops loyal to the Libyan dictator ordering local civilans to fight to the death. Hassan Droy, the National Transitional Council (NTC) representative for Sirte, told the agency:

I can't say there's any real progress because we have difficulty with the regime people from Tripoli. They're trying to tell the people that the battle is no longer for Gaddafi but to protect themselves.

15.10 ITV News reports that progress is being made towards Britain's commitment to normalising relations with the new Libyan government:


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14.49 Around 50 foreigners who were evacuated from Tripoli on a "mercy ship" at the weekend are finally back on safe ground, after their boat docked in Malta. Among those on board was Dutch glamour model Talitha van Zon - a former girlfriend of one of Colonel Gaddafi's sons, Muttasim. Before fleeing she gave an exclusive interview to the Sunday Telegraph, in which she admitted that "coming to Libya in the middle of a war" was the biggest mistake of her life.

14.30 A remarkable collection of Gaddafi family photos has been discovered by the New York Times in the Libyan leader's Bab al-Aziziya compound. They were turned up by the US newspaper's photographer Tyler Hicks in a basement that he said resembled a "family media room". The strikingly intimate set of images includes pictures of the Gaddafi family playing football, Saif Gaddafi on a horse and the Colonel carrying a young baby - presumably one of his children.

13.35 The Associated Press news agency has a chilling extra quote from rebel leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil, who is attending a meeting of Nato member country officials in Qatar to discuss a post-Gaddafi Libya. He told envoys that the toppled dictator was "still capable of doing something awful in the last moments". With at least two mass graves already discovered in regime compounds, the warning seems credible.


Mustafa Abdel Jalil met representatives of the rebels' Nato alies in Qatar

12.23 Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minster, has just been on Sky News re-iterating the Scottish government's line on Megrahi - that he hadn't broken any of the conditions of his release and won't be extradited back to the UK. He also alluded to the bomber's rapidly deteriorating condition, noting that it was "far fetched" to think that he could be re-interviewed in his current state. Mr Salmond said:

We have never had and do not have any intention of asking for the extradition of Mr Megrahi. It's quite clear from the Libyan Transitional Council that following their own laws they had never any intention of agreeing to such extradition, and therefore the views of American senators, American lawyers, of the UK Foreign Secretary, or of the Deputy Prime Minister, have no bearing on this issue because they do not have any locus whatsoever.

12.16 Richard Spencer, the Daily Telegraph's Middle East Correspondent in Tripoli, has just spoken to Megrahi's brother Abdul Nasser at the family's house. Here is his update:

I arrived early this morning at the Megrahi home in the upmarket Hay Damascus neighbourhood of Tripoli. It is in a pro-Gaddafi district and when I tried to knock on the door on Thursday got shot at by snipers. Today all was calm and Megrahi's friendly brother Abdul Nasser answered the door, and confirmed that his brother was inside, sick and in a coma. He said it didn't really matter that people were calling for him to be re-extradited, since he would die soon, though when that would be was in the hands of God.

He confirmed that his brother's medicine had been looted, but added that he was visited by a doctor yesterday who resupplied him. His mother is at his side, weeping, he said. As more and more reporters and TV crews arrived, he rather took fright and said he would allow no-one in to see his brother.

11.37 Dr Jim Swire, the prominent bereaved Lockerbie relative, has called for the convicted bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi to be allowed a "dignified end". Dr Swire has long argued that Megrahi was framed for the attack, and says the prospect of returning him to jail is "monstrous". He told the BBC:

I would be happy to go and try to look after him if that could be arranged, but I don't know how that could be. He will need pain relief and medication to allow him a dignified end. This is a man who withdrew his appeal so that he could be allowed to die close to his family and he deserves to be left in peace for his last days.

11.01 As rebels, looters and journalists continue to explore Gaddafi's abandoned properties, some extraordinary - and sickening - stories are starting to emerge. The Telegraph's Gordon Rayner reports on how the Colonel's private airliner has become a leather-lined lounge for opposition forces holding Tripoli's international airport, while CNN have spoken to a nanny who worked for Hannibal Gaddafi at one of the ruling family's seaside homes. The woman, whose body is mottled with scars, recounts how she was tortured by Hannibal's wife Aline:

She took me to a bathroom. She tied my hands behind my back, and tied my feet. She taped my mouth, and she started pouring the boiling water on my head...


A Libyan rebel in Col Gaddafi's private jet


The Airbus has been grounded since Nato imposed a no-fly zone over Libya six months ago

10.21 Col Gaddafi's regime may have crumbled but the ousted dictator still poses a threat to the Libyan people, according to Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the rebel leader. Speaking at a meeting of the rebels' international allies, he said that Gaddafi's "defiance of the coalition forces still poses a danger, not only for Libya but for the world. That is why we are calling for the coalition to continue its support."

10.09 The Scottish Government and East Renfrewshire Council have issued a joint statement to say they have been in contact with Megrahi's family over the weekend. The statement doesn't provide much encouragement to those calling for the bomber to be recalled to a Scottish prison - or extradited to the US - in light of recent events. It said:

There was no evidence of a breach of his licence conditions, and his medical condition is consistent with someone suffering from terminal prostate cancer. Speculation about Al Megrahi in recent days has been unhelpful, unnecessary and indeed ill-informed. As has always been said, Al Megrahi is dying of a terminal disease, and matters regarding his medical condition should really be left there.


09.47 Elsewhere the rebels continue their advance on Sirte, Col Gaddafi's hometown and one of the few towns still loyal to the dictator. In this morning's Daily Telegraph, Rob Crilly reports how rebel leaders hope to starve Sirte into submission, laying siege to his last remaining stronghold in an attempt to avoid mass bloodshed. It has also emerged that up to 50,000 people imprisoned by the Gaddafi regime are missing, as evidence mounts of war crimes committed by the former leader's retreating soldiers.

09.42 The first reaction to Megrahi's discovery - and parlous physical condition - is beginning to come in from families of Lockerbie victims. Stephanie Bernstein, whose husband Michael Bernstein lost his life in the atrocity, said Megrahi's death would bring an element of regret to the victims' families. She told BBC Radio 5 Live:

He was one person in a long line of people who I'm sure was responsible for the bombing and when he dies, some of the knowledge about what happened will go with him.


09.48 The big news to break overnight was that Lockerbie bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi has been tracked down in Tripoli by CNN journalists. Scottish authorities had lost contact with the convicted terrorist, who is suffering from terminal cancer, in the chaos of the rebel advance, but he is now lying comatose and surviving on an intravenous drip in a room in his family's palatial villa.

His son, Khaled al-Megrahi, told CNN: “We just give him oxygen. Nobody gives us any advice. There is no doctor. There is nobody to ask. We don’t have any phone line to call anybody. We just sit next to him … he has stopped eating and sometimes he goes into coma.”

09.38 Hello and welcome to our live coverage of Libya on Monday, August 29.

• Libya, August 28 as it happened
• Libya, August 27 as it happened
• Libya, August 26 as it happened
• Libya, August 25 as it happened
• Libya, August 24 as it happened
• Libya, August 23: fall of Gaddafi's Tripoli compound
• Libya, August 22: endgame for Gaddafi
• Libya, August 21: fall of Tripoli

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yorkshireresearchinstitute
13 seconds agoThe real truth about Libya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...

i encourage you to watch. the lies being churned out by our media, the telegraph being no exception are shocking in their audacity. We have no right to be there, the Libyans are being destroyed by NATO gangsters.... please please watch the linked video. Report Recommend



megrahi
5 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person I,m Scottish and Megrahi was a lamb to the slaughter,the deal was find 1 guilty 1 not guilty,8 years down the line we,ll release him once the deals Blair signed are in place,i,ve read the FBI CIA fit up mi5 mi6 as well,still cant believe 3 then 5 Scottish judges could be involved in such a fit up,remember Blair kissing the despot in the tent then Obame shaking the blood off his mit,justice will be done to the despot but the REBELS whoever they are look like the London looters with AK47s is Nato going to ask for them to be handed back in in a formerly que


sheriff77
7 minutes agoI don't need to go to there when I can go to Croydon or Tottenham or wait for you to start up the industrial gas chambers
and if that is as clever as you get no wonder London or should I say England is burning
that is racist reply as well as one of an ignorant fool


sheriff77
14 minutes agotry ebay
inflatable globes .99p

but point taken

but in 3 years you will struggle with these devices to transfer it anyway IMHO and talking from experience
just look at the line of devices over the years
just very frustrating



simonlove
15 minutes agoRecommended by
3 peopleIf people on this forum are so concerned about the oil war in Libya, I've got a suggestion for you—

Sell your car and buy an electric or LPG (liquid propane gas) powered car.

Petrol used as fuel in private cars is by far and away the most conspicuous consumer of crude oil.

People who drive petrol powered cars, can't protest oil wars—Simple!!!



______ dandaniels
1 minute agoI think that's the best comment I've read for a very long time. These twats preach all day long about oil wars when it is they that are the fucking problem.
Western hypocrits



sheriff77
23 minutes ago....and what better way to remember then an act of such magnanimity and compassion
what is to gain by keeping in prison in his condition

soon he will be gone he may be remembered in infamy but our gesture a testimony to our decent values



sabcarrera
24 minutes agoRecommended by
2 peopleAre the rebels the good guys?




Richard Everson
24 minutes ago Recommended by
2 peopleWell under the human rights ......surely they have a right to a family life and to seek asylum in algeria because they can not be guarranteed a fair trial and may be tortured/killed.
(me being sarcastic)
I wonder how hard it would be to send Gaddafi back if he turned up in London using all the human rights laws under the sun. I am sure he would be given a house and benefits and legal aid.


______ blue_collar_man
12 minutes agoJust like Pinochet


Just like Pinochet Report Recommend
Richard Everson
29 minutes agoRecommended by
4 peopleKhamis!! is that the 5th or 6th time he has been killed now?



maias
39 minutes ago Recommended by
6 people"The Libyan rebels will reportedly seek the extradition of Gaddafi family members from Algeria". "Libya's rebels say Algeria's sheltering of the Gaddafi family is an "act of aggression"".

So how come the rebels reportedly won't extradite the alleged killer of Wpc Yvonne Fletcher to the UK, and don't consider their decision to shelter him to be "an act of aggression" against one of the countries who actively helped them fight Gaddafi's forces? Report Recommend


______ Richard Everson 30 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person i bet they hope that algeria doesnt follow their policy of no extradition!!



joelbanks
Today 07:42 PMRecommended by
6 peopleThe Libyan rebels appear to have absorbed the Western sense of privilege. How does Algeria's granting of asylum to these members of the Gadaffi family amount to an act of aggression? And do the Tuareg not have a right to support whom they will in line with the right to oppose whom they will which the rebels exercised galore?



wildejamey
Today 07:28 PMRecommended by
5 peopleWife and children is one thing but the sons should be extradited. I'm generally opposed to capital punishment but given the sickening deaths to which this regime subjected people right up to the last minute, I'll make an exception
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megrahi
Today 06:57 PMRecommended by
19 peopleNever seen so many 4x4,s in such an alleged poor country,the wests propaganda is the cause of all the evil in this world,they spew lies all day long with no right of reply there will be more unrest in Britian if this halfwit Cameron and Clegg are not told to answer questions instead of the set up photo shoots and selective interviews with their dumb supporters


Gallifrey
Today 06:14 PM Recommended by 23 people
This whole "fight for democracy" is a farce. Just like the fight for democracy in Iraq was. This is a fight for oil. Plain and simple. If anyone ever found oil under Somalia, the west would be in there pounding the hell out of pirates and al-Qaida. Only thing "Libyan liberation" will do is install another dictator, only this one would be American-friendly. You can add Libya to the growing list of countries being screwed. Top of that list are Iraq and Afghanistan.


______ jpotter
Today 06:30 PM Recommended by 12 people
We have a petroleum-based economy and unless someone has struck oil under Blackpool Beach this weekend, we need to import it.

Using our influence, contacts and military to "encourage" a revolution that makes the supply of oil more secure seems a very sensible use of our resources. Anyone who disagrees is perfectly at liberty to stop using their cars, oil-generated electricity or plastics and stay up there on the moral high ground. Personally I have no qualms!


____________ simonlove
22 minutes ago
This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 24 hours and I've been totally slagged off for it.

I keep telling people—"If you don't like oil wars, then you can help by selling your car." Then they just abuse me and try and tell me their car doesn't cause oil wars???WTF???


____________ joelbanks
Today 07:46 PM Recommended by 4 people
jpotter: does that mean you have no qualms about the civilian casualties and fatalities, the seeding of resentments among the Libyan people, and the wanton smashing of that country's infrastructure?


____________ simonlove
24 minutes agoDo you drive a car?


____________ Gallifrey
Today 06:36 PM Recommended by 8 people
There are other forms of energy. But, like so many other products, we are brainwashed into thinking we can't survive without them.


____________ jpotter
Today 06:53 PMRecommended by
6 peopleIts not brainwashing, its a matter of the time and money needed to implement. Nuclear power, solar power, tidal power will all take 20 years or more to become a viable alternative. In the meantime we still need oil.


____________ kronstein
Today 06:38 PMRecommended by
2 peopleI find myself in agreement - again. Its good to hear a voice of reason, so rare these days.


____________ kronstein Today 06:36 PMTrue. But perhaps you might have some qualms come the final reckoning...


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Các anh chị nghĩ thế nào về "phát biểu" của ông Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minister, rằng Scottish sẽ không dự đinh "dẫn độ" tội phạm Megrahi trong vụ khủng bố đánh bom ở Lockerbie giết chết 270 người năm 1988 ?

Và các anh chị nghĩ thế nào về ý kiến của bà Stephanie Bernstein, vợ của một nạn nhân trong vụ đánh bom đó qua đọan:

" Stephanie Bernstein, whose husband Michael Bernstein lost his life in the atrocity, said Megrahi's death would bring an element of regret to the victims' families. She told BBC Radio 5 Live:

He was one person in a long line of people who I'm sure was responsible for the bombing and when he dies, some of the knowledge about what happened will go with him.

Các anh chị nghĩ thế nào khi những kẻ "chịu trách nhiệm" thực sự trong TỘI ÁC GIẾT NGƯỜI này vẫn còn tự do phè phởn nếu vụ án còn bị "che dấu" mập mờ, không được "XỬ" rõ ràng, minh bạch ??

Và còn nhiều vấn đề liên quan khác, các anh chị có thể cùng góp ý, chia sẻ .


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USA_ 14 DEAD AS NY ESCAPES WORST OF IRENE

14 DEAD AS NY ESCAPES WORST OF IRENE

Sebastian Smith, AAP
August 29, 2011, 3:30 am

•New York City shut down
Tropical Storm Irene has lashed New York, shutting down America's largest city but sparing it from serious damage.

Tropical storm Irene lashed New York on Sunday, shutting down America's largest city but sparing it serious damage after killing 14 people on the US east coast and flooding many parts of the region.

The eye of the storm - downgraded from a hurricane, but still blasting up to 105 km/h winds and near horizontal rain - passed over the Big Apple mid-morning, as millions went without power further down the coast.

Localised flooding occurred in the south and east of Manhattan, with more serious incidents in Brooklyn, where the famed Coney Island amusement park took a battering and outlying beaches were swamped.

There was particularly heavy flooding along the low-lying south shore of Long Island, where TV footage showed the high tide, rain and ocean surge drive waves right up against expensive beach houses.

At least 14 deaths have been blamed on Hurricane Irene, which slammed into North Carolina on Saturday with 140km/h winds and began tracking up the coast.

The youngest victim, an 11-year-old boy, died when a tree crashed through his apartment building in Newport News, Virginia. The latest were a woman motorist trapped in a New Jersey flash flood and a firefighter fatally injured during a rescue attempt.

Strong winds were expected in New York until nightfall Sunday as the weakening storm continued up towards Boston.

But the first hurricane to hit the Big Apple for a generation so far appeared to have generated more sound and fury than real damage.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, still smarting from criticism over the city's slow response last winter to a big snowstorm, had ordered extreme precautions, including shutting down the entire mass transport system on Saturday and ordering 370,000 people to evacuate their homes.

In New Jersey, Governor Chris Christie ordered the evacuation of more than a million residents from beach communities.

New York subway trains, buses and the Staten Island ferry closed, as did all nearby airports, paralysing the area. The Holland Tunnel and part of the George Washington Bridge, connecting New York City to New Jersey, briefly closed on Sunday.

Aviation officials said New York's international airports would start to reopen on Monday afternoon.

American airlines, British Airways, Air France and other carriers have already called off many flights to and from Europe and Asia on Monday.

The New York Stock Exchange said it was set to reopen as normal on Monday morning, but city officials warned that commuting into New York could be a nightmare, with no immediate indication of when public transport will be back on track.

"The skies are looking up," top New York emergency official Joseph Bruno told CNN.

There were "a number of areas of the city that are inundated by some surge, some rain, but overall I think we've got through this."

Bruno said the precautions had been wise even if they may have turned out to be unnecessary.

"This storm is a historic storm, extremely dangerous, coming directly up at New York City... I'm the pessimist. That's my job."

"We have a lot of damage in the city. We have thousands of trees down, or limbs down. We have lots of debris. We have flooding."

The worst fear - of severe flooding in the financial district - turned out to be unfounded, but in addition to sea surge in beach communities, the torrential rain started floods far inland in rural areas.

In Brooklyn, which has a long, low coastline, some streets suffered substantial flooding and the few vehicles on the roads had to negotiate a growing number of downed tree branches.

The howling winds set off a number of car alarms and police patrolled the deserted streets.

While nearly all shops in the city of more than eight million people were closed, Sam Hamad decided to keep his corner store open. He reported brisk business selling New York bagels, coffee and basic groceries.

"This store is like my own home, so I decided to stay open, even though I had to drive half an hour from where I live to get here," he said.

In New York, more than 70,000 people woke without electricity, especially in the outer boroughs of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island, power provider Con Edison said.

The worst outages were in the greater Washington area, where nearly two million people were without power.

Virginia's Governor Bob McDonnell told MSNBC his state had seen the second biggest power outage in its history. "It's going to be days, perhaps a week, before all the power's restored. We just ask people to be patient."

Some 65 million people live in the urban corridor from Washington north to Boston, and experts have said the damage could run into the tens of billions of dollars.

Hurricanes are rare in the northeastern United States - the last major hurricane to hit New York was Gloria in 1985.

Meanwhile, the National Hurricane Center reported that a new tropical storm, Jose, had formed and was approaching Bermuda.

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WORLD_ Gaddafi's end … and Libya's new beginning

Gaddafi's end … and Libya's new beginningStalemate had lasted for months, but within a week a stunned population found itself free at last

Martin Chulov in Tripoli, Chris Stephen at Kilometre Sixty, Daniel Boffey in London and Chris McGreal in Washington
The Observer, Sunday 28 August 2011
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People in Benghazi celebrate the storming of Muammar Gaddafi's main military compound in Tripoli. Photograph: Alexandre Meneghini/AP

The crucial blow came as Muammar Gaddafi and much of the world looked the wrong way. The Libyan revolutionaries who swept out of the western mountains and into Tripoli, turfing a hated tyrant from power in a matter of days, had been regarded as bit players: by Gaddafi as he concentrated his forces to fend off the threat from rebels in Benghazi and Misrata in the east and by European and American politicians as they questioned the point of Nato's daily bombing raids after months of military stalemate.

But far from view, the rebels in the west were armed by the French, trained by the British and led into battle by Qatari special forces as they gained enough ground to seize the town of Zawiya, then pounce on the capital. By then rebel supporters in Tripoli, secretly armed, were ready to rise up and revolutionaries from Misrata had moved on the city from the east.

The scale of the astonishing victory, as the rebels swept in with such speed and force that they took most of the capital before Gaddafi could organise a defence, surprised the revolutionaries, even if the dictator still eludes them and his loyalists hold out in pockets of resistance.

"I admit that we did not expect such a pace in the military operation," said Ali Tarhouni, a member of the National Transitional Council and aspiring oil minister.

He was not alone. "We were sending text messages that something should happen on the 20th or 21st," said Muhammad Mahmoud in the eastern Tripoli suburb of Souk al-Juma. "But the dates were not sure. Then [last Sunday – the 21st] we were outside the police station in Tajura and the guards all ran away, leaving their guns behind. It was a dream. Finally we were free."

The offensive not only toppled Gaddafi after 42 years in power and six months of rebellion, but disarmed critics of Nato's long bombing campaign, which proved crucial in keeping the fledgling revolution alive and then in grinding down the Libyan leader's ability to fight while the revolutionaries grew in strength. The architects of Nato's war – David Cameron, Nicolas Sarkozy and Barack Obama – breathed a sigh of relief at the prospect of an end to what had seemed the interminable and costly bombings. Now the talk is of a new model of western interventionism.

The rebel victory has also added new impetus to other Arab revolutions, affirming the struggle for freedom shortly before Tunisians and Egyptians seek to consolidate their new-found liberties with elections and offering fresh hope to Syrians.

But the fall of Tripoli has also suddenly brought to the fore long-brewing questions about what will replace Gaddafi, as even western leaders have shaky confidence in the largely unknown members of the revolutionary government they have backed unstintingly, the Transitional National Council, to assert its authority over a country awash with armed young men with competing allegiances. Neither is the military struggle completely over. A potentially bloody battle over the town of Sirte, Gaddafi's birthplace between Tripoli and Benghazi, has already begun.

Yet, for all the uncertainty there was jubilation among many in Tripoli at their sudden liberation. Ahmed Hassan stood at a checkpoint in Tripoli's east with a rifle he had looted from a nearby armoury and a swagger that suggested he liked his role in the new Libya.

"I was working in the central bank last week and this week I'm doing something noble," he said. "I got my cousin from the prison yesterday. His cheeks were empty and his eyes yellow. All because he was with the revolution. That is what they did to people. That's Gaddafi."


Even after six months of revolution, nightly blitzes by European air forces and a siege that was clearly taking its toll, Libyans seemed unprepared for their moment in history. The resolve of Gaddafi loyalists dissolved quicker than anyone had expected and by the week's end the former regime was in control of only about 10% of the capital that Gaddafi had ruled as a family fiefdom. After clearing the central city, rebels are massing for an assault on loyalist controlled farmland east of the airport that could finish the takeover of Tripoli.

The city's people are discovering what Libyans in other liberated cities discovered before them: the sudden release from lifelong fear of the regime. But as life slowly starts to take shape in Tripoli, people are constantly having to curb their instincts and remind themselves that the society they want to build will be different from the one they know and that they must suppress a desire to subject Gaddafi to summary justice.

"I would like to kill him," said Hassan. "Everybody would. He suffocated us for a long, long time and served up the remains to his sons. But the best thing would be to put him in a cage like a bird and drive him around the country."

Rid of the fear of Gaddafi, and certain that he cannot make a comeback, others are not bent on revenge. "It doesn't matter when, it doesn't matter how," said Dr Sami Segaigis at a Tripoli hospital. "He will be caught and put on trial. What we need then is a system of justice, not vengeance," he said. "A lot of things have to be made to work and this is going to take time, perhaps too much time."

Around the corner from the hospital on the city's eastern outskirts, justice was being meted out to a young man suspected of being one of the regime's key army officers. He was dragged from his car at a checkpoint and was being interrogated by local tribal chiefs and community elders. "We think he is from the Khamis Brigades," said one of his interrogators, referring to the feared and capable military unit commanded by one of Gaddafi's sons. "He is very important and he will be dealt with."

Many of Gaddafi's soldiers and officials had made no attempt to escape because Tripoli was surrounded so suddenly.

The cause of the sudden turnaround in the revolution can be seen in the fighters at Kilometre Sixty, a windblown truck stop in the desert named for its distance south of Misrata. It is no more than a wrecked cafe where two highways join in the middle of flat empty nothingness.

It is also the jumping-off point for rebel formations heading for what looks like being the war's last major battle – to capture Sirte 80 miles away. These formations are not the rag-tag groups of fighters who confronted tanks with petrol bombs in the spring fighting and who usually turned and fled in the face of mortars and gunfire. Now they come equipped with heavy weapons. Around the truck stop, parked in fire positions laid out by British special forces teams based in Misrata, are battered black pickup trucks, each mounting anti-aircraft guns. Behind them are a line of squat tanks, recently captured from fleeing government forces which, combined with heavy artillery and rocket launchers, add hefty firepower to the planned attack. "We learned a lot," said rebel fighter Abdullah Mateeg.

It was this army that in a week smashed through Gaddafi lines in the pell-mell advance on Tripoli. Better equipped, trained by British, French and Qatari special forces, and with six months' experience, this is the rebel's new model army.

For all that, air power was crucial. As was clear from the moment of the first Nato attacks to protect Benghazi five months ago, this was a war the rebels were going to win only with the backing of foreign planes and bombs.

The immediate effect of the air raids was to stall the advance of Gaddafi's forces. In time it went further and ground down his ability to resist an increasingly well armed and well trained rebellion. His forces had the tanks and guns to hold the front lines, but since March the alliance had been busy annihilating them.

Bunkers were shattered as if by a giant's fist, armoured vehicles flipped on their backs.

"It was hard at first [to fight the war]," said Muhammad Subka, one of a clutch of young rebel liaison officers working with British and French special forces teams in Misrata. Still, he makes clear that while Nato's air war kept the revolution alive when it was facing defeat, eventually the rebels had to deliver.

He said rebel soldiers, most of whom had never picked up a gun before, learnt quickly from British instructors at their base near Misrata's port. Subka, a former aircraft dispatcher, said his position as a commander carried pressures. "It makes you consider everything: their lives are in your hands. If you put him [a subordinate] in the wrong place, he dies."

The capture of Sirte, urgent now that Gaddafi's men are launching Scud missiles against Misrata, is viewed here as the final battle and one these bearded fighters hope will not need to be fought. "We've had enough, believe me," said Mateeg. "Nobody wants to fight. Ask yourself truly why we went to Tripoli. We went there to end this subject."


Now for the politics of the revolution, which promise to be complicated, fraught and messy. The National Transitional Council felt confident enough that the former regime was crushed to announce that it would move from Benghazi to Tripoli this weekend.

But the council may struggle to establish its credibility there. It is already viewed with scepticism by many rebel fighters because of its disastrous early handling of the war and it has been all but invisible to many Libyans even in the revolutionary stronghold of Benghazi. Crucial decisions have been made behind closed doors and barely explained to the public. Most members of the council are unknown to the broader population.

The council leader, Mustafa Abdul Jalil, is the only one with genuine appeal among ordinary Libyans and that is mostly because of his former role as Gaddafi's justice minister and a speech in January 2010 in which he declared promises of reform had been broken and resigned his post.

Jalil cut his teeth as a judge with a reputation for trying to use the law to free political prisoners and curb some of the regime's excesses. It was a delicate balance, but he gained a reputation that meant, when Gaddafi needed to demonstrate he was serious about reform in 2007, Jalil was made justice minister.

He was an early convert to the revolution and his fame assured him the top job, but he is a man without charisma and with no track record in politics, economics or the military. Around him are clustered a group of men he knows and trusts, but who have no grassroots appeal, in large part because they all served Gaddafi.

The 49-member council has done a good job of winning diplomatic and economic support from Europe and the Gulf countries. What it has not done is forge a functioning administration.

Western diplomats in Benghazi complain that most members lack the administrative expertise to run a government. Of particular concern is the concentration of the oil and finance portfolios in the hands of Tarhouni, despite the personal warmth diplomats feel for him.

The splits and bickering among the council came to the fore in July when army commander Abdel Fatah Younis was murdered. Jalil fired his cabinet on 8 August to signal his displeasure at the failure to explain the death or hold a publicly accountable investigation.

With Jalil struggling to impose himself on the council, he will now have to deal with competing factions from other cities as well as controlling Tripoli. Misrata's military spokesman, Ibrahim Betalmal, has put on record that the rebels here, who have done much to liberate Tripoli, do not accept orders from the council. Many Misrata rebels are upset that Benghazi obliged them to pay for arms shipped to the city during the siege.

The council remains publicly committed to designing a constitution, getting it approved by referendum and holding elections within eight months. Ordinary Libyans will be watching closely whether Jalil and other council members stick to their oft-repeated promise that they will not stand for the first presidential and parliamentary election.

However, the council inherits a country with no shortage of funds, including $150bn in assets overseas and largely undamaged oil wells that in more normal times produce 1.3 million barrels of oil a day. Libya's population is only six million, so the council will face no cash problems. What it will face is a struggle to establish itself in a capital in the face of a hostile elite, and with the grudging support of Misrata and troops from the Nafusa Mountains as its own units are largely absent from the capital.

The transition will be watched closely and with concern from afar. There was palpable relief among Downing Street aides last week as events unfolded. The rebels' dramatic sweep into Tripoli came as difficult questions were mounting about the cost and effectiveness of the endeavour.

But last week's sense of "satisfaction", as it was described by a senior government source, was tempered by the realisation that much could still go wrong.

At No 10, David Cameron's chief of staff, Ed Llewellyn – an aide to Lord Ashdown in Bosnia who knows that post-Gaddafi chaos could be the biggest hurdle yet – is advising the prime minister. Llewellyn is driving talk of stabilisation along with £20m of taxpayers' money and "suits on the ground" to help advise on everything from public order to the creation of government institutions.

On Thursday, the prime minister goes to Paris to co-chair a summit with Sarkozy. The two men who pushed hardest for the UN resolution that opened the way for the air campaign are keen to keep the tone right, not least because both governments believe further international recognition of the new government will be necessary to persuade the Libyan people that it is legitimate. Bragging by western powers is the most likely way to ensure that such recognition fails to be granted by states such as Russia and China.

Obama also has good reason to be satisfied with what was portrayed as his strategy of "leading from behind" – throwing US military might behind the Nato strategy but letting the Europeans be the public face of the anti-Gadaffi assault. He had come under criticism from left and right in the US for involving the country in another Middle Eastern conflict that seemed set to drag on indefinitely while others damned him for not doing enough to help the rebels.

Those criticisms have evaporated. Others may yet follow as Libya embraces, sooner than the rebels had dared hope, a future without Gaddafi.


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WORLD_ LIBYANS COUNT DEADLY COST OF BATTLE FOR TRIPOLI

LIBYANS COUNT DEADLY COST OF BATTLE FOR TRIPOLI

Maria Golovnina and Mohammed Abbas, Reuters
August 28, 2011, 2:08 pm


•Grisly find stuns Libya
Smouldering remains of 50 people believed to be Gaddafi's captives have been found as Libya counts its dead.

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - Residents of Tripoli dug makeshift graves to bury the dead as evidence emerged of widespread summary killings during the battle for the Libyan capital.

A week after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi, the stench of decomposing bodies and burning garbage hung over the city as it faced a humanitarian crisis due to collapsing water and power supplies, shortages of medicine and no effective government.

In a sign of continuing instability in the city, bursts of heavy machine gunfire and explosions could be heard overnight.

The rebels now in control of most of Tripoli vowed to take Gaddafi's home town of Sirte by force if negotiations with loyalists in one of their last strongholds there failed.

As the fighting ebbed away in the capital, more and more bodies were found. Some were Gaddafi soldiers who perished, while others appeared to have been executed. Still more were found in the grounds of a hospital abandoned by its doctors.

The charred remains of around 53 people have been found in a warehouse in Tripoli, apparently opponents of Gaddafi who were executed as his rule collapsed, Britain's Sky News reported on Saturday.

Sky broadcast pictures of a heap of burnt skeletons, still smouldering, in an agricultural warehouse, where the victims were apparently prisoners.

In the Tajoura district of the capital, local people prepared a mass grave for the bodies of 22 African men who appeared to have been recruited to fight for Gaddafi. One of the dead had his hands tied behind his back.

"The rebels asked them to surrender but they refused," said resident Haitham Mohammed Khat'ei.

"Residents of the neighbourhood decided to bury them in accordance with Islamic law," he told Reuters.

Reports of cold-blooded killings by both sides have surfaced in the past few days, darkening the atmosphere in a city where many had greeted Gaddafi's fall with joy.


PICTURES TORN

In a sign of the lawlessness now gripping parts of the capital, one of Gaddafi's villas lay looted and abandoned, torn pictures of the fugitive leader scattered in its grounds.

Gaddafi's own whereabouts remain unknown -- rebels hunting him say the war will not end until the 69-year-old colonel, who kept Libya in his grip for 42 years, is captured or killed.

Mustafa Abdel Jalil, head of the rebel National Transitional Council (NTC), told reporters in Benghazi: "We have no factual report about the whereabouts of Gaddafi and his sons."

The NTC, which has told its fighters not to carry out revenge killings, is trying to assert its authority and restore order in Tripoli but its top officials have yet to move there from their Benghazi headquarters in the east.

Abdel Jalil said the water and electricity cuts were the result of sabotage by Gaddafi loyalists.

"There is a stockpile of food and medicine but the strategic stockpile is for a normal period and now we are in exceptional circumstances which require double and triple the amounts," he said. "Food is even a higher priority than security."

After U.N. diplomats said last week a deal had been reached to allow the release of $1.5 billion (916.4 million pounds) in frozen Libyan assets for humanitarian aid and other civilian needs, the Arab League on Sunday urged the world body to free up funds immediately.

It also backed the transitional government-in-waiting's move to seek a seat at the United Nations next month, which would formally symbolise the end of Gaddafi's rule.

Rebel commanders are still negotiating with Gaddafi loyalists to try to persuade them to surrender control over the coastal city of Sirte, Abdel Jalil said.

Libya is effectively cut in two by pro-Gaddafi forces holding territory stretching southwards from Sirte, 450 km east of the capital, deep into the desert.

A rebel commander said forces advancing from the east had reached the edge of Bin Jawad, a town about 140 km from Sirte.

"We are waiting for the people in Sirte to come out and talk but we've got no answer up to now. I've been waiting for three days," the commander, Fawzi Bukatif, told Reuters.

DESERT BATTLES

With rebel forces approaching from east and west, Gaddafi loyalists in Sirte could retreat into the desert and try to reach Sabha, another Gaddafi stronghold far to the south.

"If they pull south to Sabha, we'll follow them. We're determined to clear the whole country," said Bukatif.

The rebels, still a long way from Sirte, have been using artillery backed by NATO air strikes on the town.

Far to the west, rebels were in control of Ras Jdir, the main border crossing with Tunisia, after clashing with pro-Gaddafi forces Friday, but there was almost no traffic through what is usually a lifeline for food, fuel and medical supplies for Tripoli.

Also in the west, rebels seized the small desert town of Jmayl, home of Gaddafi's prime minister, who has left the country.

Nearby in the port of Zuwara about 160 km west of Tripoli, a ship carrying ammunition for the rebels exploded and rebels pointed the finger at Gaddafi saboteurs.

"The fifth column, they blew up a boat carrying ammunition and bombs and then ran off," said Salah al-Tahar, a rebel fighter.

The NTC and the Western powers that backed rebel forces with a five-month bombing campaign are acutely aware of the need to prevent Libya collapsing into the kind of chaos that plagued Iraq for years after the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.

Life remains far from normal in Tripoli, whose 2 million people are grappling with a breakdown in basic services, even as many of them celebrate the overthrow of a hated leader.

In one hospital, wounded patients lay on bare mattresses in bloodsoaked bandages amid a stench of blood and sweat. None was on an intravenous drip, although many had lost blood.

"There are widespread shortages of fuel, food and medical supplies, particularly in the Nafusa Mountains and Tripoli," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in New York.

NTC spokesman Shammam said the council wanted staff at the National Oil Corporation, the de facto energy ministry, to get back to work and tackle shortages of petrol, fuel oil and gas.

But a senior rebel oil official said the country's five oil refineries were all currently out of action.

In Tripoli, stinking garbage was piled high in the streets. In some districts, people set it on fire to stave off disease.

Electricity and running water were scarce. Residents carried containers to mosques, which often have wells, hoping to fill up. Outside one mosque, a sign read: "No water left."

Dozens of decomposing bodies still lay in and around a hospital in Abu Salim that was abandoned by medical staff during the fighting. It was not clear how they had died.

Five bloated bodies lay on trolleys at the entrance to the emergency department, while 25 lay in the garden, wrapped in rugs and sprinkled with lime in a vain attempt to keep down the smell.

(Additional reporting by Mohammed Abbas in Ras Jdir, Robert Birsel in Ras Lanuf, Emma Farge and Alex Dziadosz in Benghazi, Hamid Ould Ahmed in Algiers and Adrian Croft in London; Writing by Giles Elgood; Editing by Alison Williams)

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4Thumbs UpThumbs Down9 Lord Ian of Glencoe03:19pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
May the fleas of a thouand camels infest Gadaffis armpits & may a plague of rampent gerbils crawl up his butt & play hide & seek !!

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6Thumbs UpThumbs Down12 kid slug03:20pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
another great leader going down. you have a lot to anzwer for bush obama !!!!Comment hidden due to its low rating. Show

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1Thumbs UpThumbs Down3 eskimo nell03:27pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
lets have a public hanging when they catch him.


3Thumbs UpThumbs Down6 Paul03:40pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
this is all these sub human filth know dont worry next week the gov b importing the filth buy the boat load

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Captain Bligh03:42pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
The burnt were Gadaffis people.


13Thumbs UpThumbs Down5 Red Planet03:43pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
Congratulations NATO, you have turned a stable and prosperous nation which was no threat to anyone into a stinking swamp of death,destruction and misery. The divided and ill-disciplined rabble (woops, I mean rebels) you have supported are jihadists who will ensure years of continued war and instability providing an ongoing pretext for continued intervention. Wonderful, it's all going perfectly as planned.

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1Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 L.L.L.03:49pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
this is expected ie civilization comes into ruin, unfortunately western hegemony is defining the Libyan landscape :(


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1Thumbs UpThumbs Down1 Matthew Tunstall03:51pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
that was one disgusting story i have ever heard!! Gadaffi reminds me of Adolf Hitler!!

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Lord Ian of Glencoe03:51pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
Nobody loves me anymore ! I am cyber depressed ....

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1Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Silicon Sam03:55pm Sunday 28th August 2011 ESTReport Abuse
George W Bush always said that Democracy was expensive. So now Libya gets to have a democracy like the UK, (riots) and the USA, (where 49.5 million are living on food stamps). 'Ain't it great to be free?) By the way,, now Nato and its airstrikes have enjoyed over 20,000 sorties, (bomb runs), who's going to fix up the place?

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USA_ HURRICANE IRENE HITS NEW YORK

•'Time for evacuation is over'
New York Mayor has warned residents to stay indoors as Hurricane Irene strikes after lashing Virginia and North Carolina

HURRICANE IRENE HITS NEW YORK
AFP
August 28, 2011, 1:00 pm

NEW YORK (AFP) - Hurricane Irene hit New York late Saturday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said as rain and stronger winds began to lash the city.

A police vehicle keeps guard at the entrance to the closed Coney Island boardwalk. Hurricane Irene hit New York late Saturday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said as rain and stronger winds began to lash the city.

"The edge of the hurricane is finally upon us," he told a press conference.

Bloomberg said that with mandatory evacuation orders handed to some 370,000 people in low-lying neighborhoods and public transport completely shut down, "the time for evacuations is over."

"At this point, if you haven't evacuated, our suggestion is you stay where you are."

"The bottom line is the storm is now starting to hit New York City," he said. "Nature is a lot stronger than the rest of us."

The hurricane has already killed at least eight people along the US east coast, cut power supplies to nearly a million.

Packing winds of up to 85 miles (140 kilometers) an hour, Irene was a weakened but still deadly category one storm when it made landfall at 8:00 am (1200 GMT) at Cape Lookout, North Carolina, near a chain of barrier islands.

At least eight people, including an 11-year-old boy killed by a falling tree, died in storm-related incidents along the eastern seaboard.

Irene knocked out power supplies for some 900,000 people, triggered the cancellation of more than 8,000 flights, and forced nearly two million people to evacuate.

Bloomberg ordered the unprecedented evacuation of some 370,000 people from flood-prone neighborhoods, while in next-door New Jersey the Governor Chris Christie ordered more than a million people out of their homes.

New York Authorities also shut down the entire Subway and bus system, turning the sprawling city into a ghost town as the leading edge of Irene swept over.

Officials said the biggest danger was to be from flooding caused not just by tropical rainfall but a surge of wind-driven seawater pushing up from the Atlantic.

City areas at risk of being swamped included parts of the financial district in Manhattan and low-lying beach resorts in Brooklyn and Queens nearby on Long Island. Boat owners scrambled to get their craft ashore and officials across New Jersey and New York pleaded with residents to keep off beaches.

Officials say Manhattan's skyscrapers are not at risk of serious damage, but warn that power outages might strand residents without light, water or elevators.

The disruption took on an international character after the area's three big airports -- John F. Kennedy International Airport, LaGuardia and Newark -- were ordered to stop all flights at 10:00pm (0200 GMT).

The flightaware.com website, which tracks airport arrivals and departures, estimated that 8,337 flights would be cancelled during the weekend, mainly US domestic trips. It warned that the figure would rise.

President Barack Obama, who cut short his summer vacation, visited the Federal Emergency Management Agency's operations center in Washington, where he said the east coast was in for a "long 72 hours."

Some 65 million people live in the urban corridor from Washington north to Boston, and experts have said the damage could cost anything up to $12 billion to restore.

"This is going to be a very serious storm, no matter what the track is, no matter how much it weakens. This is a life threatening storm to people here," Bloomberg said.

Irene's approach stirred painful memories of Hurricane Katrina, which smashed into the Gulf Coast in 2005, stranding thousands of people in New Orleans and overwhelming poorly prepared local and federal authorities.

Hurricanes are rare in the northeastern United States -- the last major hurricane to hit New York was Gloria in 1985 -- but this time authorities say they are ready.

The US military said up to 101,000 National Guard soldiers were available if needed and designated military bases in three states as staging areas.

Despite dire warnings, there were still scattered holdouts who ignored the evacuation orders and accused officials of hyping the danger.

In the neighborhood near the fun fair of Coney Island, some said they enjoyed the strangeness of seeing the summer hot spot deserted -- even if it faced possibly dangerous flooding within hours.

Don John, who lives near Coney Island, strolled down with his sister Ann to take pictures.

"I wanted to see Coney Island like it is in December, except not cold," he said.

After New York the storm was on track to batter more of New England, to the north and east, including Boston.

In Tiverton, Rhode Island, police were also working to evacuate residents from at-risk coastal zones. Again, not everyone believed there was any point.

"My neighbors are all about 74 to 78 years old and one has lost two houses to storms in her lifetime. She says she's weathering the storm and is frying fish for dinner for us," said Kathy Whalen, 44.


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2Thumbs UpThumbs Down3 Fred2 hours, 36 minutes agoReport Abuse
get used to it , as the climate changes those further south and north will get to share what have been experiencing for youars


2Thumbs UpThumbs Down45 Karri2 hours, 17 minutes agoReport Abuse
dont worry, the really big one, some disastor will hit New York once again,thousands injured or lost but not this one, so hold on to your seats new york, no point shifting out of there to on the day, and then its to late. bless ye all you church goers, your prophets and priests want announce it but will come to aid and assist financially, a great effort... I know nothing, I see nothing, and my cristal ball is not for sale.. karri.Comment hidden due to its low rating. Show

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down1 Magnusson2 hours, 6 minutes agoReport Abuse
category 1 hahahahahaha


1Thumbs UpThumbs Down1 Mike2 hours, 2 minutes agoReport Abuse
It’s nice to see that New York has it so much better then new Orleans considering that there was little warning compared to this and no real support during or after. I hope everyone is safe though the silent hypocritical nature of a system that has its clear favorites does annoy me big time.

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1Thumbs UpThumbs Down6 Aussieboy2 hours, 2 minutes agoReport Abuse
Time to go to Bloomingdales and Loot!!..

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Magnusson53 seconds agoReport Abuse
category 1 hahahahahaha


0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Captain Bligh1 hour, 59 minutes agoReport Abuse
organised people well done


1Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 kid slug1 hour, 53 minutes agoReport Abuse
i hope my ebay items are not delayed.


1Thumbs UpThumbs Down18 Lord Ian of Glencoe1 hour, 49 minutes agoReport Abuse
This is God punishing America for electing a coloured president ! It says in the bible that our coloured friends were meant to serve us , not lead us ! Repent you sinners for electing him ! God save the Queen , ps ...i'm still missing my altar boy !Comment hidden due to its low rating. Show

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4Thumbs UpThumbs Down1 J Memphis tn'se1 hour, 30 minutes agoReport Abuse
Lord Ian? Oh dear! I say old chap, a low grade convict descended specimen asserting his non-existent status by downgrading a person of international stature! You really, I do declare, must be so terribly conscious of your depleted genetic inheritance. Poor sod!

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WORLD NEWS_ US CLAIMS DEATH OF AL QAEDA NUMBER TWO

•'Biggest blow after bin Laden'
The US has claimed to have killed Al Qaeda's second in command, Atiyah abd al-Rahman in Pakistan.

US CLAIMS DEATH OF AL QAEDA NUMBER TWO
ABC
August 28, 2011, 6:05 am


US claims death of Al Qaeda number two

Al Qaeda's second in command, Atiyah abd al-Rahman, has been killed in Pakistan, the United States said, claiming another "tremendous" blow to the group following the death of Osama bin Laden.

A senior US official said Rahman was killed in tribal Waziristan on August 22 after being deeply involved in directing operations for Al Qaeda. The official did not divulge the exact circumstances of his death.

Local officials in the tribal region last week said a US drone strike on August 22 on a vehicle in North Waziristan killed at least four militants, but it was not clear if the two incidents were connected.

The senior US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the death of Rahman would be deeply felt by Al Qaeda because the group's new leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, had relied on him heavily since US Navy Seals killed bin Laden.

Rahman's death represents "a tremendous loss for Al Qaeda," the senior official said.

"The trove of materials from bin Laden's compound showed clearly that (Rahman) was deeply involved in directing Al Qaeda's operations even before the raid," he said.

"He had multiple responsibilities in the organisation and will be very difficult to replace."

The United States does not publicly confirm details of drone attacks, but its military and the CIA in Afghanistan are the only forces that deploy the unmanned Predator aircraft in the region.

Washington has called Pakistan's semi-autonomous north-west tribal region the global headquarters of Al Qaeda, where Taliban and other Al Qaeda-linked networks plot attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The Washington Post cited unnamed officials in July as saying that evidence taken from bin Laden's compound suggested the Al Qaeda founder was concerned about the impact drone attacks were having on his organization when he died.

The death represents another success for president Barack Obama's intensified and often clandestine operations against Al Qaeda, particularly in the north-western tribal regions in Pakistan which Washington says is the group's lair.

Bin Laden was killed in his compound in Abbottabad in a daring raid by US special forces soldiers deep into Pakistan in May, and the soldiers seized large amounts of intelligence about the group's operations.

The death of Rahman comes as the United States gears up to mark the 10th anniversary of Al Qaeda's most spectacular attack, on September 11, 2001 on US landmarks in Washington and New York which killed nearly 3,000 people.

In his weekly radio and internet address on Saturday, Mr Obama called on Americans to recreate the national unity that emerged after the attacks, and noted that "We're taking the fight to Al Qaeda."

In July, US defence secretary Leon Panetta said that the "strategic defeat" of Al Qaeda was "within reach" and that 10-20 key operatives had been targeted in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and north Africa.

"Now is the moment, following what happened with bin Laden, to put maximum pressure on them because I do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple Al Qaeda," he said.

AFP

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