Live coverage of Libya as Algeria's foreign ministry states Gaddafi's wife and three children have fled across the border and the relatives of Lockerbie victims respond to the discovery of Abdel Basset al-Megrahi in Tripoli.
By Matthew Moore, and Barney Henderson
7:00PM BST 29 Aug 2011
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• Gaddafi's son Khamis killed in clashes, claim rebels
• Col Gaddafi's wife two sons and daughter 'have fled to Algeria'
• Nato countries say 'joint action' against Gaddafi must continue
• Rebel chief says dictator 'still capable of doing something awful'
• Scottish government: no plans to extradite Lockerbie bomber
• Megrahi 'close to death' after tracked down to Tripoli home
• Opposition fighters advance on Sirte, and plan to 'starve' town
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20.40 Rob Crilly, our man on the ground in Benghazi, gives some reaction to the news that Gaddafi's wife Sofia and children Hannibal, Mohammed and Aisha have fled to Algeria.
There'll be little surprise in Libya that Gaddafi's wife and three of his children have arrived in Algeria. Benghazi has been buzzing for days with unconfirmed reports of armoured cars crisscrossing the desert on the way to the border in the far south-west.
Most speculation puts Colonel Gaddafi himself somewhere in the south-west too. The thing I can't work out - what's in it for Algeria? Presumably pots of cash... but can that be enough to balance the international outrage that would follow the Colonel's arrival in Algiers?
20.28 Here is a picture of Khamis Gaddafi, who was infamous for leading the nation's most feared militia - the Khamis Brigade. The rebels claimed they had killed Khamis Gaddafi earlier this month but he was then shown alive and well on Libyan television.
Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi's youngest son Khamis AP
20.15 BREAKING Rebel commander claims Gaddafi's son Khamis has been killed during fighting in southen Libya.
19.35 Libya's de facto government considers Algeria's sheltering of members of Muammar Gaddafi's family an act of aggression and will seek their extradition, a National Transitional Council spokesman said on Monday. Here is the statement spokesman Mahmoud Shamman told Reuters:
We have promised to provide a just trial to all those criminals and therefore we consider this an act of aggression.
We are warning anybody not to shelter Gaddafi and his sons. We are going after them in any place to find them and arrest them.
We consider what Algeria did as an act of aggression against the ambitions of the Libyan people. We will take the necessary measures in light of this. We will ask for their extradition.
19.18 The Libyan rebels will reportedly seek the extradition of Gaddafi family members from Algeria.
19.07 Libya's rebels say Algeria's sheltering of the Gaddafi family is an "act of aggression", Reuters reports.
18.42 The Egyptian news agency MENA, quoting unidentified rebel fighters, had reported from Tripoli over the weekend that six armored Mercedes sedans, possibly carrying Gadhafi's sons or other top regime figures, had crossed the border at the southwestern Libyan town of Ghadamis into Algeria.
18.30 Rob Crilly - The Telegraph's man in Benghazi, eastern Libya reports:
Rebels have said they believe Gaddafi may have fled to the Sahara desert close to the border with Algeria. Brigadier-General Abdusalam al-Hasi, the head of the country’s special forces before he joined the rebel uprising in February, said he believed the vanquished leader was with Touareg allies in the south-west of the country, close to the border with Algeria. “The Touareg are supporting Gaddafi so I think he’s there,” he said at his headquarters in the rebel capital of Benghazi, indicating a swath of desert land to the south-west of the loyalist stronghold of Sabha.
18.06 Col Gaddafi's wife, two sons and a daughter entered Algeria this morning, the foreign ministry in Algiers announced. Here is the statement:
The wife of Moamer Kadhafi, Sofia, his daughter Aisha, and sons Hannibal and Mohammed, accompanied by their children, entered Algeria at 08:45 am (0745 GMT) through the Algeria-Libyan border.
17.40 Khamis Gaddafi, whose personal militia allegedly executed dozens of political prisoners in the days before Tripoli fell to the rebels, may be added to the International Criminal Court's most wanted list. Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo told Reuters that he is considering applying for an arrest warrant for Col Gaddafi's son. His father, and brother Saif, are already on the most wanted list.
17.19 Telegraph TV now have footage of Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minister, outlining why his government has no plans to push for the extradition of Megrahi:
17.04 Tripoli may be running out of food, water and fuel, but at least the rebels are being creative with their checkpoints. Alex Thomson, Channel 4's respected chief correspondent, has picked out his favourite barricades on the streets of the Libyan capital. His verdict:
Personally I felt Water Tank Check won through for satirical comment in a city without any water, whilst Wooden Table Check points to more peaceful but let’s face it duller times when the bureaucrats have replaced the revolutionaries.
16.47 In an earlier update we mentioned the curious album of Gaddafi family photos discovered in a basement of the former dictator's wrecked Bab al-Aziziya compound by a New York Times journalist. They are worth clicking through in full - but to give you a flavour here's a similar image found at the same compound by the AFP agency, showing a young Col Gaddafi at an unspecified family event:
16.28 The meeting of countries who provided military support to the rebels has just broken up in Qatar, with a commitment to continue the offensive against Col Gaddafi's remaining forces. According to the AFP agency, the chiefs of staff at the summit agreed that the war was far from over, and pledged further "joint action".
15.40 A little more from the Foreign Office on their plans to re-establish a British Embassy in Tripoli. There hasn't been an official UK presence in the Libyan capital since diplomats were withdrawn at the height of the Arab Spring. The FCO statement reads:
A small FCO-led team, consisting of diplomatic and technical staff, is now on the ground in Tripoli as part of the preparations for that wider diplomatic presence. This reflects the recent military progress which means that some members of the NTC have already moved to Tripoli. We remain in regular consultation with the NTC about our plans.
15.25 Rebel forces are approaching Col Gaddafi's hometown stronghold of Sirte from east and west, but progress is reportedly slow. The Reuters news agency says that the rebels' attempts to negotiate a peaceful surrender of the city are being complicated by troops loyal to the Libyan dictator ordering local civilans to fight to the death. Hassan Droy, the National Transitional Council (NTC) representative for Sirte, told the agency:
I can't say there's any real progress because we have difficulty with the regime people from Tripoli. They're trying to tell the people that the battle is no longer for Gaddafi but to protect themselves.
15.10 ITV News reports that progress is being made towards Britain's commitment to normalising relations with the new Libyan government:
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14.49 Around 50 foreigners who were evacuated from Tripoli on a "mercy ship" at the weekend are finally back on safe ground, after their boat docked in Malta. Among those on board was Dutch glamour model Talitha van Zon - a former girlfriend of one of Colonel Gaddafi's sons, Muttasim. Before fleeing she gave an exclusive interview to the Sunday Telegraph, in which she admitted that "coming to Libya in the middle of a war" was the biggest mistake of her life.
14.30 A remarkable collection of Gaddafi family photos has been discovered by the New York Times in the Libyan leader's Bab al-Aziziya compound. They were turned up by the US newspaper's photographer Tyler Hicks in a basement that he said resembled a "family media room". The strikingly intimate set of images includes pictures of the Gaddafi family playing football, Saif Gaddafi on a horse and the Colonel carrying a young baby - presumably one of his children.
13.35 The Associated Press news agency has a chilling extra quote from rebel leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil, who is attending a meeting of Nato member country officials in Qatar to discuss a post-Gaddafi Libya. He told envoys that the toppled dictator was "still capable of doing something awful in the last moments". With at least two mass graves already discovered in regime compounds, the warning seems credible.
Mustafa Abdel Jalil met representatives of the rebels' Nato alies in Qatar
12.23 Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minster, has just been on Sky News re-iterating the Scottish government's line on Megrahi - that he hadn't broken any of the conditions of his release and won't be extradited back to the UK. He also alluded to the bomber's rapidly deteriorating condition, noting that it was "far fetched" to think that he could be re-interviewed in his current state. Mr Salmond said:
We have never had and do not have any intention of asking for the extradition of Mr Megrahi. It's quite clear from the Libyan Transitional Council that following their own laws they had never any intention of agreeing to such extradition, and therefore the views of American senators, American lawyers, of the UK Foreign Secretary, or of the Deputy Prime Minister, have no bearing on this issue because they do not have any locus whatsoever.
12.16 Richard Spencer, the Daily Telegraph's Middle East Correspondent in Tripoli, has just spoken to Megrahi's brother Abdul Nasser at the family's house. Here is his update:
I arrived early this morning at the Megrahi home in the upmarket Hay Damascus neighbourhood of Tripoli. It is in a pro-Gaddafi district and when I tried to knock on the door on Thursday got shot at by snipers. Today all was calm and Megrahi's friendly brother Abdul Nasser answered the door, and confirmed that his brother was inside, sick and in a coma. He said it didn't really matter that people were calling for him to be re-extradited, since he would die soon, though when that would be was in the hands of God.
He confirmed that his brother's medicine had been looted, but added that he was visited by a doctor yesterday who resupplied him. His mother is at his side, weeping, he said. As more and more reporters and TV crews arrived, he rather took fright and said he would allow no-one in to see his brother.
11.37 Dr Jim Swire, the prominent bereaved Lockerbie relative, has called for the convicted bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi to be allowed a "dignified end". Dr Swire has long argued that Megrahi was framed for the attack, and says the prospect of returning him to jail is "monstrous". He told the BBC:
I would be happy to go and try to look after him if that could be arranged, but I don't know how that could be. He will need pain relief and medication to allow him a dignified end. This is a man who withdrew his appeal so that he could be allowed to die close to his family and he deserves to be left in peace for his last days.
11.01 As rebels, looters and journalists continue to explore Gaddafi's abandoned properties, some extraordinary - and sickening - stories are starting to emerge. The Telegraph's Gordon Rayner reports on how the Colonel's private airliner has become a leather-lined lounge for opposition forces holding Tripoli's international airport, while CNN have spoken to a nanny who worked for Hannibal Gaddafi at one of the ruling family's seaside homes. The woman, whose body is mottled with scars, recounts how she was tortured by Hannibal's wife Aline:
She took me to a bathroom. She tied my hands behind my back, and tied my feet. She taped my mouth, and she started pouring the boiling water on my head...
A Libyan rebel in Col Gaddafi's private jet
The Airbus has been grounded since Nato imposed a no-fly zone over Libya six months ago
10.21 Col Gaddafi's regime may have crumbled but the ousted dictator still poses a threat to the Libyan people, according to Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the rebel leader. Speaking at a meeting of the rebels' international allies, he said that Gaddafi's "defiance of the coalition forces still poses a danger, not only for Libya but for the world. That is why we are calling for the coalition to continue its support."
10.09 The Scottish Government and East Renfrewshire Council have issued a joint statement to say they have been in contact with Megrahi's family over the weekend. The statement doesn't provide much encouragement to those calling for the bomber to be recalled to a Scottish prison - or extradited to the US - in light of recent events. It said:
There was no evidence of a breach of his licence conditions, and his medical condition is consistent with someone suffering from terminal prostate cancer. Speculation about Al Megrahi in recent days has been unhelpful, unnecessary and indeed ill-informed. As has always been said, Al Megrahi is dying of a terminal disease, and matters regarding his medical condition should really be left there.
09.47 Elsewhere the rebels continue their advance on Sirte, Col Gaddafi's hometown and one of the few towns still loyal to the dictator. In this morning's Daily Telegraph, Rob Crilly reports how rebel leaders hope to starve Sirte into submission, laying siege to his last remaining stronghold in an attempt to avoid mass bloodshed. It has also emerged that up to 50,000 people imprisoned by the Gaddafi regime are missing, as evidence mounts of war crimes committed by the former leader's retreating soldiers.
09.42 The first reaction to Megrahi's discovery - and parlous physical condition - is beginning to come in from families of Lockerbie victims. Stephanie Bernstein, whose husband Michael Bernstein lost his life in the atrocity, said Megrahi's death would bring an element of regret to the victims' families. She told BBC Radio 5 Live:
He was one person in a long line of people who I'm sure was responsible for the bombing and when he dies, some of the knowledge about what happened will go with him.
09.48 The big news to break overnight was that Lockerbie bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi has been tracked down in Tripoli by CNN journalists. Scottish authorities had lost contact with the convicted terrorist, who is suffering from terminal cancer, in the chaos of the rebel advance, but he is now lying comatose and surviving on an intravenous drip in a room in his family's palatial villa.
His son, Khaled al-Megrahi, told CNN: “We just give him oxygen. Nobody gives us any advice. There is no doctor. There is nobody to ask. We don’t have any phone line to call anybody. We just sit next to him … he has stopped eating and sometimes he goes into coma.”
09.38 Hello and welcome to our live coverage of Libya on Monday, August 29.
• Libya, August 28 as it happened
• Libya, August 27 as it happened
• Libya, August 26 as it happened
• Libya, August 25 as it happened
• Libya, August 24 as it happened
• Libya, August 23: fall of Gaddafi's Tripoli compound
• Libya, August 22: endgame for Gaddafi
• Libya, August 21: fall of Tripoli
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yorkshireresearchinstitute
13 seconds agoThe real truth about Libya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...
i encourage you to watch. the lies being churned out by our media, the telegraph being no exception are shocking in their audacity. We have no right to be there, the Libyans are being destroyed by NATO gangsters.... please please watch the linked video. Report Recommend
megrahi
5 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person I,m Scottish and Megrahi was a lamb to the slaughter,the deal was find 1 guilty 1 not guilty,8 years down the line we,ll release him once the deals Blair signed are in place,i,ve read the FBI CIA fit up mi5 mi6 as well,still cant believe 3 then 5 Scottish judges could be involved in such a fit up,remember Blair kissing the despot in the tent then Obame shaking the blood off his mit,justice will be done to the despot but the REBELS whoever they are look like the London looters with AK47s is Nato going to ask for them to be handed back in in a formerly que
sheriff77
7 minutes agoI don't need to go to there when I can go to Croydon or Tottenham or wait for you to start up the industrial gas chambers
and if that is as clever as you get no wonder London or should I say England is burning
that is racist reply as well as one of an ignorant fool
sheriff77
14 minutes agotry ebay
inflatable globes .99p
but point taken
but in 3 years you will struggle with these devices to transfer it anyway IMHO and talking from experience
just look at the line of devices over the years
just very frustrating
simonlove
15 minutes agoRecommended by
3 peopleIf people on this forum are so concerned about the oil war in Libya, I've got a suggestion for you—
Sell your car and buy an electric or LPG (liquid propane gas) powered car.
Petrol used as fuel in private cars is by far and away the most conspicuous consumer of crude oil.
People who drive petrol powered cars, can't protest oil wars—Simple!!!
______ dandaniels
1 minute agoI think that's the best comment I've read for a very long time. These twats preach all day long about oil wars when it is they that are the fucking problem.
Western hypocrits
sheriff77
23 minutes ago....and what better way to remember then an act of such magnanimity and compassion
what is to gain by keeping in prison in his condition
soon he will be gone he may be remembered in infamy but our gesture a testimony to our decent values
sabcarrera
24 minutes agoRecommended by
2 peopleAre the rebels the good guys?
Richard Everson
24 minutes ago Recommended by
2 peopleWell under the human rights ......surely they have a right to a family life and to seek asylum in algeria because they can not be guarranteed a fair trial and may be tortured/killed.
(me being sarcastic)
I wonder how hard it would be to send Gaddafi back if he turned up in London using all the human rights laws under the sun. I am sure he would be given a house and benefits and legal aid.
______ blue_collar_man
12 minutes agoJust like Pinochet
Just like Pinochet Report Recommend
Richard Everson
29 minutes agoRecommended by
4 peopleKhamis!! is that the 5th or 6th time he has been killed now?
maias
39 minutes ago Recommended by
6 people"The Libyan rebels will reportedly seek the extradition of Gaddafi family members from Algeria". "Libya's rebels say Algeria's sheltering of the Gaddafi family is an "act of aggression"".
So how come the rebels reportedly won't extradite the alleged killer of Wpc Yvonne Fletcher to the UK, and don't consider their decision to shelter him to be "an act of aggression" against one of the countries who actively helped them fight Gaddafi's forces? Report Recommend
______ Richard Everson 30 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person i bet they hope that algeria doesnt follow their policy of no extradition!!
joelbanks
Today 07:42 PMRecommended by
6 peopleThe Libyan rebels appear to have absorbed the Western sense of privilege. How does Algeria's granting of asylum to these members of the Gadaffi family amount to an act of aggression? And do the Tuareg not have a right to support whom they will in line with the right to oppose whom they will which the rebels exercised galore?
wildejamey
Today 07:28 PMRecommended by
5 peopleWife and children is one thing but the sons should be extradited. I'm generally opposed to capital punishment but given the sickening deaths to which this regime subjected people right up to the last minute, I'll make an exception
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megrahi
Today 06:57 PMRecommended by
19 peopleNever seen so many 4x4,s in such an alleged poor country,the wests propaganda is the cause of all the evil in this world,they spew lies all day long with no right of reply there will be more unrest in Britian if this halfwit Cameron and Clegg are not told to answer questions instead of the set up photo shoots and selective interviews with their dumb supporters
Gallifrey
Today 06:14 PM Recommended by 23 people
This whole "fight for democracy" is a farce. Just like the fight for democracy in Iraq was. This is a fight for oil. Plain and simple. If anyone ever found oil under Somalia, the west would be in there pounding the hell out of pirates and al-Qaida. Only thing "Libyan liberation" will do is install another dictator, only this one would be American-friendly. You can add Libya to the growing list of countries being screwed. Top of that list are Iraq and Afghanistan.
______ jpotter
Today 06:30 PM Recommended by 12 people
We have a petroleum-based economy and unless someone has struck oil under Blackpool Beach this weekend, we need to import it.
Using our influence, contacts and military to "encourage" a revolution that makes the supply of oil more secure seems a very sensible use of our resources. Anyone who disagrees is perfectly at liberty to stop using their cars, oil-generated electricity or plastics and stay up there on the moral high ground. Personally I have no qualms!
____________ simonlove
22 minutes ago
This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 24 hours and I've been totally slagged off for it.
I keep telling people—"If you don't like oil wars, then you can help by selling your car." Then they just abuse me and try and tell me their car doesn't cause oil wars???WTF???
____________ joelbanks
Today 07:46 PM Recommended by 4 people
jpotter: does that mean you have no qualms about the civilian casualties and fatalities, the seeding of resentments among the Libyan people, and the wanton smashing of that country's infrastructure?
____________ simonlove
24 minutes agoDo you drive a car?
____________ Gallifrey
Today 06:36 PM Recommended by 8 people
There are other forms of energy. But, like so many other products, we are brainwashed into thinking we can't survive without them.
____________ jpotter
Today 06:53 PMRecommended by
6 peopleIts not brainwashing, its a matter of the time and money needed to implement. Nuclear power, solar power, tidal power will all take 20 years or more to become a viable alternative. In the meantime we still need oil.
____________ kronstein
Today 06:38 PMRecommended by
2 peopleI find myself in agreement - again. Its good to hear a voice of reason, so rare these days.
____________ kronstein Today 06:36 PMTrue. But perhaps you might have some qualms come the final reckoning...
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Các anh chị nghĩ thế nào, có ý kiến , phê bình gì qua bài viết "Libya live" trong ngày 29-8-2011 cũng như qua 25 ý kiến, phê bình trong số "1669 comments" của đọc giả ?
Các anh chị nghĩ thế nào về "phát biểu" của ông Alex Salmond, the Scottish first minister, rằng Scottish sẽ không dự đinh "dẫn độ" tội phạm Megrahi trong vụ khủng bố đánh bom ở Lockerbie giết chết 270 người năm 1988 ?
Và các anh chị nghĩ thế nào về ý kiến của bà Stephanie Bernstein, vợ của một nạn nhân trong vụ đánh bom đó qua đọan:
" Stephanie Bernstein, whose husband Michael Bernstein lost his life in the atrocity, said Megrahi's death would bring an element of regret to the victims' families. She told BBC Radio 5 Live:
He was one person in a long line of people who I'm sure was responsible for the bombing and when he dies, some of the knowledge about what happened will go with him.
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