Saturday, July 23, 2011

KHỦNG BỐ ở Na Uy_Ý Kiến- Phê Bình- Thảo Luận_ Norwegian terror suspect admits firing shots

Norwegian terror suspect admits firing shots


Two women light candles at the entrance of Norway's embassy in Stockholm on Saturday July 23, 2011, as people gather to pay tribute to the victims of twin attacks at the government headquarters building in Oslo and on a youth camp near to the capital, leaving at least 91 dead. (AP / Johan Jeppsson)

Updated: Sat Jul. 23 2011 4:31:03 PM

CTV News.ca Staff

The man linked to a deadly bombing and shooting spree in Norway has confessed to firing weapons on an island near the nation's capital and has been charged under the country's terror laws, police confirmed Saturday.

As the Nordic massacre's death toll rose to at least 92 people on Saturday, information continued to trickle out about the mass tragedy and the man thought to be behind the carnage.

It has also been learned that the man purchased a six-ton cache of fertilizer before the twin attacks, the supplier revealed on Saturday.

The suspect was arrested on Friday, shortly after a gunman dressed as a police officer opened fire on a youth camp on Utoya, an island just outside Norway's capital.


Emergency workers search for bodies beneath the water off the island of Utoya, Saturday, July 23, 2011. (AP / Matt Dunham)

Police said the gunman was shooting for an hour and a half before surrendering to a SWAT team that arrived 40 minutes after they were called. The police said they chose to drive because their helicopter wasn't on standby.

"There were problems with transport to Utoya," said Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim. "It was difficult to get a hold of boats, but that problem was solved when the SWAT team arrived."

At least 85 were killed on the island, but police said there are still four or five people missing.

Sponheim said the missing may have drowned and divers have been searching the surrounding waters.

Survivors of the shooting reported the gunman ordered people to come closer before pulling out weapons and ammunition from a bag and opening fire.

One survivor, 21-year-old Dana Barzingi, said that several victims pretended to be dead to survive. But after shooting the victims with one gun, the gunman shot them again in the head with a shotgun, he said.

Police also linked the suspect to the explosion that had ripped through an Oslo government building just hours before. On Saturday, police confirmed that a car bomb was responsible for the explosion.


A police official told The Associated Press that the bomb used was "some kind of Oklahoma City-type" device made of fertilizer and diesel fuel. Officials are not sure what kind of detonator was used.

The Oklahoma City bomb was a 4,000 lb fertilizer-and-fuel-oil bomb that detonated in front of a federal building in 1995, killing 168 people.

Though police haven't released the suspect's name, local news outlets have identified the man as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik.

Norwegian media reports describe Breivik as a right-wing extremist opposed to both Islam and multiculturalism, and speculate that his farming business would have access to fertilizer that could be used to construct explosives.

On Saturday, a spokeswoman for agricultural supplier Felleskjopet confirmed that the company told police shortly after Breivik emerged as a suspect that he had bought six-tons of fertilizer.

As the police continue to investigate, Norway is grieving the twin attacks which are said to be the deadliest bombing the country has seen since the Second World War.

Flags around Oslo were lowered to half-mast on Saturday. Residents also gathered at a local cathedral to light candles and lay flowers.

The army could be seen patrolling the streets, which is unusual for Norway -- a country which on average sees just 40 murders a year and the average police officer doesn't carry a firearm.

In the wake of the Nordic massacre, European police announced Saturday that they're establishing a task force of more than 50 experts to help northern European countries address terrorism.

The group, which is based in The Hague, hopes to help Norway with their investigations in the coming weeks, task force spokesperson Soeren Pedersen told The Associated Press.


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Timeline
The following is a timeline of events of the Norwegian bombing and shooting attacks on Friday, according to police and eyewitnesses. All times are local.

• 3:26 p.m. A car bomb explodes outside the prime minister's office in central Oslo.

• Around 4:50 p.m. Vacationers at a campground begin to hear shooting across the lake on Utoya, an island where the youth wing of the Labour Party is being held.

• 5:38 p.m. The SWAT team is dispatched from Oslo. It drives, deciding that starting a police helicopter would take longer.

• By 6 p.m. The team arrives at the lake, but it struggles to find a boat to cross over.

• 6:20 p.m. The SWAT team arrives on the island.

• 6:35 p.m. The suspect puts down his weapons and surrenders to police.

With files from the Associated Press

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61 Comments


Mark
religious fundamentalists are scary. They think when they die they're closer to god. I suggest we do random screenings of christians at airports as well as a ban on all money to christian charities. Am I right guyz. those damn liberal christians errr wait I mean right wing christians.




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Paul in Vancouver
Most people need to get off their soapbox and quit trying to push blame where it does not lie. The blame for this massacre lies squarely at the feet of the person who committed this terrible act and nothing more. To use this tragedy to prove a political or a religious point is sickening in my opinion.



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Kaji
I'm curious, why so much venom against true Christianity? What one thing out of Jesus' teachings would cause such hostility? Maybe those firing off against it are more opposed to those who say they are Christians and then act in awful ways? (like this shooter?).



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Louis
actually norway had the HIGHEST gun ownership in Western Europe. The gun lobbyists from US should shut up - i understand that the US situation is vastly more complex due to the amount of guns people already own or are selling but suggesting that Norway should have more relaxed gun laws is ridiculous. Lets just go and give every country in the world the option to buy guns easily and see what happens because i promise you it will not be a pretty world.....not that it really is at the moment.




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BlkBess
@Gutshot ". this is a result of multiculturalism, exactly as we have been foolishly trying to do here in Canada." Unless you are a member of the Canadian First Nations you are the product of multiculturalism. Odds are you should be hopping on the first plane out of the country and please take your shallow mindedness with you.Evil is as Evil does. It does not matter what your religion is or what your race is, Evil Happens. My thoughts and prayers for the people of Norway. I can only begin to imagine your pain. It is always hardest for those left behind.




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j bean
This horrific event wasn't motivated by religious belief. The attack on longstanding western traditions by newcomers who insist they are offended by the customs of their new country and demand changes be made to accommodate them is what incited the murderer. Compare nations that are predominately Muslim with predominately Christian countries in their tolerance toward minority faiths and customs. Then decide if you want to allow your country to become more and more populated by people that want things changed more than they want to accept you. I believe the murderers' frustration with this reality is what pushed him over the edge.




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elisa
@ River...like!Couldn't have said it better myself!




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Ken From MB
@ BABSHere is a thought. How about if someone was armed and in the area, they could have stepped and stopped this lunatic. But no one was armed sad to say. For once i wish people would start using their heads other than a coat rack. You only seen a gun, never mind he blew up a building which he could have caused more deaths. Maybe if People were allowed to be armed this type of sensless crap would not take place.




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Bill from Nova Scotia
This has nothing to do with religion or politics. Some nut had a crazy idea and went through with it. And most of groups who pull off these sort of things claim to have religion behind them when most of the time trhey are lead by people with their own agenda who use religion to get them fired up. No religion is evil, its some of the evil people in the world who use it for their own selfish reasons.




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Sober Second Thought
News has come out that the suspected killer was also a Freemason. I would doubt then that he could be much of a Christian fundamentalist if he was also a Freemason because the viewpoints of both groups are not consistent with each other. They are two different faiths. And yes, you are right, if anything the Bible is a left leaning book talking a great deal about social justice etc. Tommy Douglas is an example of someone who lived that out. The best explanation is that the fellow was mentally ill.




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WestofTheRockies
@ V.I. Brad, Please explain Tommy Douglas to us then. Held in reverence as the father of socialism in Canada by the left wing, yet he was a fundamentalist Christian preacher. If you spent even a few minutes reading the “old book” you would fast realize it’s content is much more left leaning than right. It’s about faith and helping your fellow man, its’ fundamentals are all about social justice. It appears this man may have had as much knowledge of the “old book’s” content as you do ….none. Time to do a little research and start thinking for yourself. All right thinking people are not fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Christians are not all right wing.




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Bo_ch
My sympathy and condolences go out to the victims, the families of victims, and the people of Norway.

I’m so sick of people ranting about the fact this person was Christian, he may have been, we don’t know for sure. To Andrew iin Vancouver, if you knew so much about the shooter before the media did what do you do for a living, or are you some how involved with the phone hacking scandal in England?

To all those who are going to use this a example of why gun ownership should be outlawed including Babs (who by the looks of the post is already starting to make it look like all legal gun owners are murderous lunatics) I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you really think that all the shootings in Toronto were committed by a citizen who poses fire arms legally, or perhaps they were committed by citizens who bought illegal guns?
2. I’m going to assume you believe in the Long Gun Registry? If so do you really believe that a hunter who already carries a PAL (Possession, accusation License ) and has to show it to purchase his long gun, and then all that info is recorded along with a serial number which could be traced back to the purchaser of the gun, is going to go and commit a crime with that weapon, or perhaps are the weapons used to commit crimes illegal ones?





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Reece
Ak47 - m16, American militia - insurgents, jihadist - crusader... I can go on but the point is right-wing nuts can't seem to recognize that they are sent to war to kill their counterparts elsewhere not realizing the differences between them is symantics. If the Muslims could refer to Allah as god would their be such hate?




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DANYA
@ALIZABefore you open your mouth and blame this attack on Muslims,I strongly recommand you get all the information correct, and one more thing, a terrorist can be from any religion and any culture it has nothing to do with Islam.What about the "CHRISTIANS" that kill their own kids and go get high on drugs and kill other innocent people, what do you call that???Instead of descriminating go get educated.




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robin hood
Now that more information is available I can see now that he had all his bases covered. Heading and operating an agricultural farm allowed him to fly under the radar with his purchase of the fertilizer and why such a purchase would go undetected or raise any red flags. Taking his time — building on his knowledge and accessibility of weapons, creating a one man arsenal. It’s a scary prospect to believe others are lying in wait just like him — patiently waiting while perfecting their skills focusing on time and opportunity to execute a plan destine to bear fruition. Who knew danger could look like that? They say he is as cold as ice — he would have to be to pull this off and cause this much devastation for so many. Put a band on this dam fertilizer — it does the crops no good and its other use(s) is equally destructive!




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rich
This suspected killer's bio said that he liked to play the video game World of Warcraft. Is this a case of some warped delusional person with no life in the real world playing out his Cyber world fantasies on innocent people? I know the video game lobbyist will strongly deny any connection but no one can say for sure what goes on inside someone’s warped mind.




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Walter Fernandez
I can't believe how many networks were so quick to point fingers and after the truth came out they are not even an apology for doing it, This morning at about 2 am I accidentally stop by the SUN TV and they had some Israeli expert saying that some muslim cleric had claimed responsibility for the attacks and that this guy was a sleeper for Al qaeda... what a crock.. the CRTC should look into this kind of hate mongering by this right wing propaganda machine.... W. Fernandez (Agnostic)




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Terry
Religious or not. God never gave anybody orders to kill another human bieng. I don't know where these creeps get their books but it doesn't matter what religion. It does not contain words of death. It's very sad to see that many have to suffer because one crackpot. May his soul burn in hell forever and bless those who didn't deserve to die.




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deny59
I totally agree with Gunshot, we are not meant to be a melting pot of different religions and cultures.CLose the doors now! Muslims do not think the same way, they value death more than life! This guy was a nut bar, too bad no one saw it coming. Now it will give others ideas on how to do the same. Sad world we are living in! My condolences to all these families that lost loved ones.




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Canadiandy
This comment page is no place to preach for or against Christianity or any other religion. Keep your views to yourself!! Let's get back to the true intent of this comment page: Shock, disbelief, sadness, condolences, anger!




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Aliza
As I suspected, this was domestic terror by a lone murderous lunatic who has clearly severely distorted his Christian and right-wing beliefs. To those who note that these are not Christian acts, that's likely what he calls himself (anyone sane who knows the religious texts knows that his actions go against the tenets of Christianity). I suspect the reason the media is emphasizing that he's blond, blue-eyed and Christian isn't to offend proper Christians, but to ensure that people don't attack innocent Muslims. How is it we can so easily recognize that this nutjob does not represent a billion Christians, but we can't recognize that a couple of Muslim nutjobs aren't representative of that faith? When there are a billion people, there's bound to be a few that shouldn't have been born!



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Babs
Libertarian, I do not believe that anyone is trying to "dismantle your rights."
Clearly, this individual is Caucasian and male.
Disregard the Christian angle.
Call me a moron, but I am compelled to believe that he owns a gun. Or two. Perhaps a semi-automatic weapon?
If we were to INFRINGE on his rights and not permit him to own these weapons, perhaps these 85 innocents might still be alive?
I would rather die in my home than accidentally kill an innocent with a gun.






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McFib
Terrorism definition: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes @Thomas: This definition is correct whether it applies to one man or a group. It always starts with one person and grows from there. What has happened will stay with these survivors for the rest of their lives. The families affected may never find peace. It is my wish that all who have been affected by this, directly or indirectly (like those of us who have felt the need to comment here) might learn to value life more than we have been, that we hold our families close and open our hearts and our lives and get to know our neighbours. We are stronger together and together we will get through this.




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River
No person/persons has the right to choose who will live or die because of their personal beliefs.




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JMac
Peace, to the good people of Norway.




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Irvin Bodnarchuk
The ONLY reason that so many people were killed in Norway, was because NO ONE else had a gun except the KILLER. Gun haters are to dumb to acknowledge this.




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robin hood
How can anyone anywhere walk in and buy 6 tons of fertilizer without raising a red flag? Solely judging from the suspect’s image, he doesn’t look like a farmer — I’ll bet that his hands don’t either! ----------------------------------- Nitrogen based fertilizers depletes the natural carbon reserves from the soil—needed by the soil to retain more moisture. Discovery of the decline of carbon quantities in the soil began as soon as 1950, when synthetic nitrogen fertilizers started being used. So this type of fertilizer does not increase food production rather it increases nitrate pollution which aids in releasing more carbon dioxide into the air adding to the other gases making up the greenhouse effect. (Report released 2007) According to Gabriel Gache’s report on the scientists' findings the use of large quantities of the inefficient nitrogen based fertilizes renders fertilizer manufacturers 68 million dollars from farmers buying their product every year. ------------------------------------ Now that I know this information my questions is—are you trying to supply the poor man (groups) with an effective, easy access bomb? Congratulations, you’ve succeeded; the blood is on your hands!




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Kevin McDonald
Hitler, Goebbels and Stalin were baptized as Christians and also ignored the gospels and killed innocent children and adults. You are only His disciple in as much as you imitate His example. Discipleship is de imitatione Christi -- not how you think it should be with murdered liberals and their children. He might have self-professed as one, but he was no Christian. True religion breeds and fosters pluralism and tolerance and the impulse to consensus, egalitarianism and democratic ideals.




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HA
I am sure there is a breeding grown for this type behavior & Ideology somewhere in our own backyard in Conservative country. The tables have turned now how are you liking it!? Hopefully CSIS will have funds to put churches, white farmer folk who buy to much fertilizer, under surveillance in these areas.




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Tom Hanna
This anti muslim christian fundamentalist that did the shooting, is it safe to say the victims on the island were not blonde/blue eyed as he was and Germany elected/appointed a man, with the same ideals, into power some 80 years ago!




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Hilary Greene
I was watching the 12 o'clock news yesterday, the first thing they said about this bombing was that it was committed by Muslims. I dont understand how a news network could just blame Muslims and give false information when they dont know the full story. That was just plain Racism.




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Tom Hanna
This is a very tragic event and my thoughts and prayers go out to the greiving families and friends. As horrific as this is, these types of events are going to become more prevelent as time goes on. Many factors may play into this scenario, possibly we are not having wars like we use to in the past millenium and deranged extremists have to create thier battles at home, maybe the toxins we are creating are starting to catch up with us or here is one way out there, we have too much freedom in our society and are just getting too dam over crowded and when a mad man goes "postal", a bullet has a difficult time trying to miss someone! These are crude ideas but they are ones that are food for thought and any way of resolving them is even a gigantic task for any politician.




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Prof. Pye Chartt
Just like mental illness itself, terrorism comes in all forms, from all ideological types (eco-terrorism from misguided lefties, anti-abortion terrorism from misguided Christians, anti-Western terrorism from misguided Muslims, etc.). Some folks need to get off their rickety soapbox, sit back down, and give the "clever" and self-interested threat evaluations a rest.




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rose
Very sad time for this small country. My children's father's family came from Norway to Canada to live six generations ago. Many question we have the first one why?




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GUTSHOT!! in Thunder Bay
While the media is spouting off the suspect's hair and eye colour, they are conveniently not mentioning the fact that he is pro-Israel and very pro-gay. His actions can only be assumed against the pro-immigration of Muslims in Norway, which the PM has been behind. Also this event follows a days old announcement that Norway was withdrawing from Libya. A real true Zionist is what this guy is. He's certainly NO white supremecist as the media is trying to show.




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stop pigeon-holing
To V I Brad: "Fundamental Christians are very right-wing"... What an odd thing to say. I've been a Christian for over 40 years and have been accused of being a Socialist and left wing. Many other Christians have been accused of the same thing when charity is confused with socialism.




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Dean from Toon Town
Extremism.. not one religion or another.. is the true enemy.




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Mark J.
Island girl is right. You aren't a Christian unless you adopt Christ's teachings. "Love your fellow man" is the foundation of Christianity. Anyone can claim to be something. But it doesn't make it so.




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dano
A sad day for all. Why do people feel that a difference in faith that are all derived from the same anchient text is justifiable for murder or mayhem. All this makes me turn from organized religion all together. I pray to god the creater that all these nut ball fanatics are all born again in a lake of fire, burn you twisted freaks.




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Jen
sorry, but christians have been doing this kind of thing for centuries. IS it really not clear yet that christianity and really any organized religion is messed up?




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Dennis J.
Norway does not have the death penalty. I wish they did. This guy deserves it, and you could sign me up to be the one to do it. Of course, there will be those of you who think he could be innocent, that it might have been "some other guy" that actually did all of this, and this guy just happened to be on the island because he was lost and needed directions. Some one please tell me how this jerk deserves to be kept alive, fed, and housed for the rest of his life on the tab of taxpayers. Ridiculous.




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eilan
Horrible people will use whatever their personal beliefs are, religious or not, to do horrible things. The fact that this man is a Christian as well does not reflect on other Christians, but his extreme views on religion do play into his motives. Don't forget, the Christians during the Crusades murdered thousands of Arabs and Jews in the name of Christ. Just because some people claim to do something in the name of their god it does not mean that the religion itself is to blame. It is bad people doing bad things for their own selfish reasons. It just goes to show that it doesn't matter which belief system you subscribe to, there are bad people in every part of society. Condolences to the Norwegian people, we are all thinking of you!




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GUTSHOT!! in Thunder Bay
Pay attention folks.. this is a result of multiculturalism, exactly as we have been foolishly trying to do here in Canada. Events like this are on our horizon if we keep following the course we're on. Different cultures dont mix well, and only serve to anger folks as each team pushes for their goals. End immigration now. Borders are there for a reason... they didnt just happen by accident.




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Sick of Religion
"Christians" - please stop using this tragic event to barrage us with your self-serving rationalizations about who is and who isn't one of your lot. All religions are the same. All of them breed mad extremists. Christianity breeds its share. Your denials are empty and irritating.




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BOB
dan(two comments below), different bullets = different gun .. not necessarliy different shooter.




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Timo Posti
This is a very sad tragedy for Norway and for all those who hear of it. My parents are from Finland and to me, it's a great shock to hear of this happening in Scandinavia, although there have been shootings in Finland in recent years. Norway has always been considered a peaceful place, prosperous and free. Whatever motives there are for such an attack, we should feel compassion for Norwegians. Jesus Christ feels compassion for hurting people and in no way would endorse such killings and violence.




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Sandusky
I'm am extremely troubled by the fact that this killer has been identified is a self-identified Christian. As every level-headed, unbiased person knows, these acts are not even remotely Christian and are condemned wholeheartedly by Christians everywhere. To suggest that his actions reflect Christianity in general would be extremely unfair. The fact is: nowhere in the world do I see or have I ever seen so-called Christians leaving their church services on Sundays chanting "Death to Norway" or burning effigies of their Prime Minister. This troubled man is an isolated case that should not be lumped with Christendom at all. To suggest otherwise is plain bigotry against Christendom. Let's not give this man anymore power of us.




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Andrew iin Vancouver
I had all the information on this guy shortly after the story broke and before most news agencies reported even his name. CTV is lying. He is definitely NOT a Christian in any sense of the term. I had most of what happened figured out including my response to the situation yesterday and I knew the outright liars in the media would be spinning the story.




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Canadiandy
My heart goes out to all the victims, their families and all the people of Norway. Like all acts of terrorism, this was an utterly senseless attack on innocent people, and I hope those responsible will get the book thrown at them! MBT: What's your take on the atrocities committed in "God's" name during the crusades? Please don't use this forum to preach!N.Paul: What a sadistic view of events. This is like the people in Palestine and other Middle Eastern countries cheering after 9/11! You speak of Karma, well I hope it visits you!




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island girl
This man was and is not a Christian because he commits acts condemned by Christianity. Just because you SAY you are something, doesn't make you one.




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dan
Police is investigating for a second suspect ,why don't they check the bullets from the bodies different bullets different shooter.




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Thomas
Though what happened here was incredibly sad, and a tragedy of epic proportion. It wasn't an act of terrorism so much as an act of a person gone mad. Usually, when it is terrorism, it is a group or organization which are demanding or revenging something. You can blame it on all the things the guy was but, at the end of the day, it would be more useful to ask him why he done it and address it accordingly. All this talk about terrorism when it is obviously not just clouds the issues and denies justice to the victims.




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Canadian
See the CBC still showing it's extremist biased slant. They aired interviews from only visible minorities in that country about this story. Because??




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V.I.Brad
I too am eager to hear this man's reasoning. However, getting defensive about the fact that he is a Christian is useless. Fundamental Christians are very right-wing. Often their views on reality are tainted by words written in an old book. He is obviously not mentally well and his reasoning probably reflects that. It breaks my heart as a father to think of these families who lost their children yesterday.




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Gundula Baehre
Hopefully, this tragedy will make Norway and the rest of Western Europe realise that right-wing extremism is NOT just a problem in countries like the United States and Germany, but is a pan-European phenomenon and actually appears to be more of a pervasive danger in some of the Scandinavian countries. My condolences to the victims of this senseless rampage, but I also fee for the many Muslim individuals who have had to endure the unfounded hatred and viciousness on this and other news sites until it became clear that the culprit was, in fact, like in the Oklahoma City bombing, a Caucasian terrorist, a crazy right-wing male with murderous, religiously and politically motivated hatreds. Let's hope some good comes of this senseless tragedy and that in ALL countries of Western Europe, North America and beyond, police and politicians will show the fortitude and the intelligence to pursue right-wing, white supremacy terror groups with as much power, vigor and assertion as they have done with the Islamists. For if they do not or if they attempt to explain this away as the work of some crazed lunatic, it will some day be too late, and a new type of Nazi-like terror will have invaded ALL or at least of Europe and perhaps even North America, Australia etc. (and that is a distinct possibility).




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JO
You don't just go around killing people! What's your problem? Isn't your motive "religion", and aren't you supposed to help them, not kill them?!




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Phil
Our hopes and prayers to the people and Crown of Norway. This madman deserves whatever he gets. I could not agree more with the other poster. 'Fundamentalist' should be in quotes or inverted commas, it is an incorrect use of the English term; especially when applied to Christianity. Is this news site implying that the fundamentals of Christianity include mass murder of kids and bombing? Did the Vatican or an international group of Christian clergy FUND this? Will Churches hand out candies and sing hymns in honour of the killer in the Holy land to celebrate? Will there be a national holiday declared in London, Paris, New York etc? Will Obama fire an assault rifle from the White House balcony? Will priests and pastors around the globe call for MORE blood? NO to all. Your inferred comparison to Islamic fanatics is a GIGO equation. This guy's actions were political. Trying to compare this horror to the horrors of the Jihadist attacks is a slander to the victims of BOTH. This is it's very own kind of Evil. No doubt it is just the start.




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Libertarian
Here comes the the new wave of false-flag terrorism. Caucasian, male, Christian, home-grown, gun owners, right-wing. Be prepared to have your rights dismantled all across the West




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N.Paul
Norway keep on supporting terrorism, like the LTTE Tamil Tigers, it's called KARMA, what goes around come around for what you did to Sri Lankan people by helping the worlds most ruthless terrorist outfit the LTTE. GOD is there after all.




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J.C.
What a devastating event this is. Condolences to those who have lost loved ones due to this mad mans extremists views. This should demonstrate to many that no matter what religion there are those that use it for their evil extremist views. An old adage "religion and politics do not mix" and "the church and state must be separate" is proven once again to be fact regardless of what religious belief it is.




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MBT
The Norway events are a tragedy; our hearts go out to those who have lost their loved ones, and those who are injured. If the assassin is 'talking' we will hear what reason he gives for his attack. Whatever answers he provides, "Christian fundamentalism" does not provide a reason. A Christian is one who has turned from sin to God, through faith in Jesus Christ and His payment of our sin penalty throu His death on the cross. "Fundamental" Christianity is based on the facts about and teaching of Jesus Christ. Jesus condemned murder, and the mind-set that motivates it, in the clearest terms: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God"You have heard it said 'thou shalt not kill'; I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother without cause is danger of judgement... "Whoever hates is brother is a murder, and you know that no murder has eternal life abiding in him." This man acted contrary to the grace of God and to the teaching and commandments of Christ, and therefore cannot be said to be one who believes or follows Christ. If he had known Christ, he would not have murdered innocent people.

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