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Norway gunman warns of terror network, police cast doubts on claim
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Viking50
6:47 AM on July 25, 2011
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It is wise to seek a closed hearing. This monster did not commit suicide, or die in a standoff, because he wanted to take the stage and spout his hatred to Norway, Europe and the world. The murders he committed were for the purpose of obtaining the world's attention. Having achieved the goal of obtaining the world's attention, he now relishes the opportunity to bring his message of hatred and chaos to a worldwide audience.
We ought not let the terrorist win. There should be a closed hearing so that those who lost loved ones do not have to endure the preposteros scenario of Breivik presenting his 'explanation' for why he killed their children and family.
We need, and the good people of Norway need, to continue to be liberal and democratic in dealing with this monster. At the same time we must not be naive.
Breivik is a messianic. He represents himself as a messenger of god. He admits to conduct that would break man's law. He denies guilt because he was doing god's will. He pleads not guilty to use the courts as a platform for his hate. There is no need to allow him to misuse society further.
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Rober
7:10 AM on July 25, 2011
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This is good. No need to give him the publicity he seeks.
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Kristen--T
9:53 AM on July 25, 2011
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Catherine Wilkie,
PM Harper did make a statement on the Norwegian massacre.
He condemned it as a barbarous action and he extended condolences on behalf of Canada and all Canadians.
It was an appropriate response.
I do not support Harper politically at all but there is a time and place for everything.
This story is not the place..................
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GeorgeofTO
5:17 AM on July 25, 2011
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Incredibly sad story. I hope the survivors of this rampage have a full physical and emotional recovery- no easy task. My thoughts and wishes are with them, their families and anyone touched by this madman's attack.
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King of Sleaze
9:22 AM on July 25, 2011
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Religion kills just as surely as malaria. Let's keep working to eradicate them both.
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TOLatte
10:24 AM on July 25, 2011
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"a revolution to rid Europe of Muslims" - replace the word Muslims with Jews and these could be the words of Hitler. I hope people are paying attention this time.
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Kristen--T
10:01 AM on July 25, 2011
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Catherine Wilkie,
With all due respect to you the occasion called for a dignified response from our PM.
It was not the occasion to turn it into a grand standing event for himself.
Had Stephen Harper come out and made it all about himself you would have accused him of show boating and turning a tragedy into an opportunity to showcase himself.
His response was appropriate. No world leader is doing anything differently.
This was a sad event for Norway.
93 innocent people are dead and that is where the focus should lie.
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Canada1
9:54 AM on July 25, 2011
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CatherineWilkie...said ; Where is Harper?
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Catherine, are you trying to somehow draw Harper and Canada into this tragedy?
I'm not at ALL certain that is a viable approach.
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Chris_Lalonde
10:02 AM on July 25, 2011
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Thinking of all the innocent people he killed including young kids. S.O.B.
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Deweythecat
11:34 AM on July 25, 2011
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Why is that when a Christian commits terrorist acts, he is labeled a madman and not a terrorist?
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Udom
12:35 PM on July 25, 2011
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How long before Breivik's supporters start making him a martyr?... Well, it's already started, of course. We have lots of his sympathisers telling us that he might have gone a smidgen too far, but he was dead right in his beliefs.
The victims are not even buried and we have dozens of posters defending their killer's ideas.
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sussman
12:34 PM on July 25, 2011
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With right-wing extremism so rampant in Canada, I fear for my country.
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svenjolly
10:51 AM on July 25, 2011
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The most offensive and controversial speech is exactly what needs protecting - this is why free speech laws exist.
Popular speech doesn't need protecting.
I would be most interested to read the ramblings of this lunatic. We need to understand the working of such deranged minds before we can hope to prevent such occurrences.
Sticking your head in the sand and hoping it all goes away will accomplish nothing.
Publication bans are impossible since the advent of the internet. I read all about Bernardo on internet newsgroups even though everything was banned.
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Leon Russell
7:46 AM on July 25, 2011
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Go ahead, say it: Christian terrorist. It was so easy to say Islamic terrorist? What's wrong?
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WWT1
10:08 AM on July 25, 2011
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What about the GMs policy on not allowing comments regarding ongoing legal cases?
I guess this only applies to Conrad Black!
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Cheryl9608
10:03 AM on July 25, 2011
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Remember on these threads, Day One of the event? The muslims did it!!! The muslims did it!!! Deja Vu to the whole Timothy McVeigh act. It was the muslims!! The muslims!! We learned another harsh lesson. The white guy standing next to you on the bus, sans turban, ..........
There will be more. Look at the divisiveness in the States and in Canada. right vs left has never been so strong. Teabaggers urging violence. Harper Regime urging fear and hate. It's coming to a neighbour near you and it will not be sporting a turban.
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DGL46
9:25 AM on July 25, 2011
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He doesn't need a platform and I'm glad the judge will not give him one.
Who cares if his sick manifesto is already published - all these nutbars publish them and they all are justifications for their warped actions.
He's deranged and needs to be dealt with by the justice system, and locked away forever ASAP.
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Richard Roskell
12:59 PM on July 25, 2011
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"Yes, this man was a terrorist, but he was no Christian. He was a heretic of ancient vintage."
Ah yes, the disavowals begin.
When Muslims kill, it's because their religion compels them to do it- according to some. Yet when Christians kill, 'by definition' it means that they're insane terrorists, not Christians. You should ignore the entire, grotesque and horrific historical record of Christians killing all and sundry. They weren't Christians at all. They were just terrorists.
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Boreal Moose
11:52 AM on July 25, 2011
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Rad Fodder writes: Islam is the single most retro-grade and parasitic force on earth. Multiculturalism is the vehicle that Islam uses to gain access to it`s host...the west... in this case Norway . Islam and multiculturalism are responsible for far worse overall world wide, than what took place in Norway.
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Actually, love of money, petroleum and capitalism are the most retrograde forces. They insinuate themselves into nations, burrowing into both the earth and flesh of the host traditional societies, erecting Western structures to replace indigenous ones. '
It is not THEIR fast food which is sweeping the globe. It is not THEIR porn, TV, music etc which is getting a grip on our kids, to the chagrin of OUR old folks.
As WE roll over the world with a Western steamroller, you have nerve to suggest that we are the ones who have something to fear, that we are the ones whose culture is in danger.
What a crock of ****.
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Arlo_Mack
12:45 PM on July 25, 2011
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I continue to be appalled by the insensitive and dogmatic ramblings of a surprisingly large number of writers in the G&M comments section both in general but shockingly specifically in response the the mass murder in Norway.
Frankly my time is too precious to me for me to spend any more time "debating" issues with people whose prose disgust me.
I also take the G&M to task for facilitating the nausiating and thinly disguised hate speech of these posters. Far too many postings call for extreme actions against groups or even individuals. Many of these writers have left themselves open to criminal or civil legal actions but the G&M continues to let them post while only censoring their worst and most obvious missives.
So long and thanks for all the viciousness.
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