Live rolling coverage from Libya as rebels keep up the hunt for ousted dictator.
By Andy Bloxham, Andrew Hough and Barney Henderson
6:30PM BST 09 Sep 2011
• Rebels say they have entered Gaddafi stronghold Bani Walid
• Rebels and Gaddafi forces clash on the outskirts of Sirte
• Libya's new prime minister warns that civil war is not yet over
• Former UN president arranged Algeria move for Gaddafi family
• Interpol issues arrest warrant for Gaddafi, Saif, and spy chief
• Tony Blair 'fuelled' power obesession of Saif al-Islam
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20.21 Libya commander vows 'decisive military action' as talks falter.
19.40 Reports on Reuters that battles have started on the outskirst of the Gaddafi stronghold of Sirte.
19.23 More from National Transitional Council official Abdallah Kanshil on the Bani Walid onslaught:
They (anti-Gaddafi fighters) are in the north of the city fighting snipers, we have also entered from the east.
People are very afraid, that is why we have to go in.
They (NTC fighters) are engaging in low-level fighting with Gaddafi brigades, we are pushing
NTC soldiers are fighting their way down the main road to Gaddafi's home town of Sirte
19.01 Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is calling on the Security Council to establish a U.N. mission in Libya to deal with the country's new rulers for an initial period of three months. Ban said in a letter circulated today that the support mission would provide political, electoral, constitutional, human rights and other kinds of advice to the National Transitional Council as it forms a new government following the fall of longtime leader Col Gadhafi.
Ian Martin, Ban's envoy to Libya, told reporters that Security Council members expressed support for a such a mission during closed-door consultations. He says a draft resolution to establish the operation is expected to circulate on Monday.
18.42 Richard Spencer's story about Tony Blair saying he tried to make Gaddafi quit power:
Former British Prime MInister Tony Blair has made an impassioned defence of his close ties with the Gaddafi regime and confirmed that he had tried to persuade the Libyan leader to give up power after the start of the revolt against his regime.
Mr Blair said he had no regrets about setting aside decades of hostility between Britain and Libya and holding out an olive branch in 2004. In return, Col Gaddafi agreed to give up his programme of weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
"No," he said in an interview with the Reuters news agency to mark the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. "I always say to people it is absolutely simple – the external policy of Libya changed."
18.35 Libyan fighters have entered the Gaddafi stronghold of Bani Walid and clashed with Gaddafi supporters, the rebels have claimed. The town is one of the last holding out against the country's new rulers, the former rebels said.
Abdullah Kenshil, the former rebels' chief negotiatior, said the former rebels were fighting gunmen positioned in houses in the town and the hills that overlooked it.
Anti-Gaddafi forces were moving in from the east and south, and the fighters deepest inside Bani Walid were clashing with Gadhafi's men about a mile (2 kilometers) from the center of the town, Kenshil said.
"They are inside the city. They are fighting with snipers," he said.
16:23 Rob Crilly, The Telegraph's man on the frontline at Sirte, sums up the latest developments after rebels suggested Gaddafi might still be there.
Got a good sense of the challenge facing the rebels if they do try to move on Sirte in the days ahead. We tried to advance up the road to about 60 miles from the city but came under heavy rocket attack. Gaddafi forces clearly have an eye on the road and are opening up on anything that advances.
15:17 Sue Turton, blogging on Al Jazeera's website, describes the creature comforts helping her cover the war. I suspect some of the correspondents might be glad of such luxuries, never mind some of the Libyans.
The only things keeping us sane and cheerful every morning were our big aluminium coffeepot, and the little shop next to the mosque. The boys became adept at getting a fire started with scavenged wood and building a little rock stove. Other TV crews looked on enviously as our pot percolated enough espresso for the five of us. Not to mention the boiled eggs for breakfast and the tuna pasta they rustled up for lunch one day.
14:58 The full scale of the rebuilding challenge facing the Libyan people is vast and diverse. At least 30,000 people have been killed and 50,000 injured since the fighting began. The dead must be mourned without lasting sectarianism, the injured have to be healed and the rebel fighters, many of them under 25, have to put down their guns, still their blood and return to their former lives as students, shopkeepers or businessmen.
Photographer Harvey Hook, from Birmingham, has spent weeks in Libya. He said:
What is most shocking about these children of war is how normal they seem after all of the fighting.
13.32 A new group of 14 Gaddafi officials including General Ali Kana, a Tuareg who was in charge of Gaddafi's southern troops, are in Niger's northern city of Agadez, Niger security sources have told Reuters. Two sources said the group included four top officials, amongst them two generals.
A local administrator said the other general was Ali Sharif al-Rifi, Gaddafi's commanding officer of the Libyan air force. A Reuters reporter in Agadez said the four top officials were staying at the Etoile du Tenere hotel, a luxurious hotel in the outskirt of the town, said to be owned by Gaddafi, where the Libyan leader stayed during a Muslim holiday in 2007.
The arrival of the group follows that of the head of Gaddafi's security brigades, Mansour Dhao, who crossed into Niger in a mass convoy on or around September 4.
12.38 Tony Blair has said that he has no regrets about helping bring Gaddafi in from the cold in 2004. The former prime minister, now a Middle East envoy, was asked if he regretted handing out the olive branch to the ex-Libyan dictator. He answered:
No. I always say to people it is absolutely simple - the external policy of Libya changed... The trouble was in the end they weren't prepared to reform internally ... They were less of a threat to the outside world, but inside they were a threat to their people and then when the uprising happened, again, there was a big choice... I remember actually speaking to Colonel Gaddafi at the time (the uprising) happened and saying this is the moment to realise you are going to have to go and be the person that gives it up
11.36 Interpol has issued arrest warrants for Muammar Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi. Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said:
As far as Interpol's general secretariat headquarters is concerned, Muammar Gaddafi is a fugitive whose country of nationality and the ICC want arrested and held accountable for the serious criminal charges that have been brought against him
09.15 A former president of the United Nations General Assembly brokered a deal allowing Col Muammar Gaddafi's wife and children take refuge in Algeria, according to reports. Ali Treki, a Libyan diplomat who chaired the UN body in 2009, formed a close relationship with Abdulaziz Bouteflika, the country's veteran president. Damien McElroy writes that:
A statement from the RCD, the Algerian opposition, said Mr Treki, who ran Col Gaddafi's efforts to buy support from African regimes and tribal leaders for decades, had secured a personal promise of sanctuary for fleeing relatives from the Algerian leader. President Bouteflika personally made the decision to allow Col Gaddafi's wife Safia, daughter Aisha, sons Mohammad and Hannibal, plus other relatives cross into Algeria last week.
09.10
Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC) fighters look at a destroyed armoured vehicle belonging to defeated loyalist forces after capturing the key Red Valley on the road to Moamer Kadhafi's hometown of Sirte
09.00 Tony Blair's policy of close engagement with Libya ended up fuelling the power obsession of Col Gaddafi's son and heir apparent Saif al-Islam, one of the regime's chief spokesmen has told The Daily Telegraph. Mr Blair's "carrot and stick" policy to bring the Gaddafi regime in from the cold over weapons of mass destruction crossed a line, particularly over human rights and the rendition of regime opponents, according to the former Libyan deputy foreign minister, Khaled Kaim. He said:
We must learn the lessons of history. Some Arabs always seek support from the West more than from their own people. That may have been valid in the 1980s but not any more. I don't think any government should be ashamed of promoting its citizens' interests, including business. But it should be a fair and square deal, and not involve abuses of human rights at every turn for the sake of commercial interests.
08.55
Former rebel fighters celebrate at the front line in Bani Walid, Libya, Thursday, Sept. 8, 2011
08.45 Libya's new prime minister has warned that the country's civil war is not over, as new figures estimated that 30,000 people had already been killed in the conflict. Mahmoud Jibril, whose formal title is chief executive of the National Transitional Council, spoke publicly for the first time in Libya's capital Tripoli since rebel forces seized it from the Gaddafi regime last month. Richard Spencer in Tripoli reports:
He gave an explicit warning to rebel leaders not to start "political games" until the war was over – a key concern as different rebel factions jockey for position in the new Libya. He threatened to step down if the rebels did not unite around the mission to defeat the regime remnants.
08.30 Good morning all. Welcome to our live coverage of Libya on Friday, September 9.
• Libya: September 8 as it happened
• Libya: September 7 as it happened
• Libya: September 6 as it happened
• Libya: September 5 as it happened
• Libya September 2: as it happened
• Libya: September 1 as it happened
• Libya: August 31 as it happened
• Libya: August 30 as it happened
• Libya, August 29 as it happened
• Libya, August 28 as it happened
• Libya, August 27 as it happened
• Libya, August 26 as it happened
• Libya, August 25 as it happened
• Libya, August 24 as it happened
• Libya, August 23: fall of Gaddafi's Tripoli compound
• Libya, August 22: endgame for Gaddafi
• Libya, August 21: fall of Tripoli
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N_Parker 10 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person I already know they won't find Gaddafi there.
The real Bin Laden and Saddam will be though, along with Lord Lucan and Glenn Miller.
NonAlignedUK
37 minutes agoArticle in the Australian shows, again, just how depraved and wicked the Gaddafi regime was:
http://www.theaustralian.com.a...
"In al-Khums, about 11km east of Tripoli, they found a man named Mahmoud Tarouni. He told them he was one of 18 men who in late May were locked in a 12m cargo container in the compound of a Turkish company. The prisoners were beaten and tortured until they could not stand, and had boiling water poured down their backs. On June 3, the local commander went to Tripoli, leaving orders that the prisoners should be given no food or water until he returned. He stayed not one day, but three.
The sun beat down. The prisoners were not let out despite begging. By the time the commander came back, 15 were dead."
Not that any sane people commenting here need much convincing.
Hector_IngToday 09:07 PMRecommended by
1 person "Mr Blair said he had no regrets about setting aside decades of hostility between Britain and Libya and holding out an olive branch in 2004. In return, Col Gaddafi agreed to give up his programme of weapons of mass destruction (WMD)."
There never were any weapons of mass destruction, Blair.
You knew that at the time and you lied through your teeth about it then.
You know it now, and you're still lying through your teeth Blair.
You did it with Iraq as well.
There comes the point where the sheer weight of consistent lies over the years stacks up against you Blair - and you passed that point a long time ago.
Now you are just digging yourself deeper in shit.
Go for it, if anyone deserves the ignominy you do.
______ Horace_Wimple_Bt58 minutes agoGadhafi is well known to have had, and then destroyed, chemical weapons and all credit is due to Tony Blair.
____________ Hector_Ing19 minutes agoRecommended by
1 person horace_wimple_bt
Must have slipped my mind, Bart.
I don't recall reading anything about WMD having been found and destroyed.
I do recall there being some claims about Gaddafi having nuclear weapons at the time - but again I don't recall anything about any having been found.
But as you say, it is "well known", so there must be a host of reputable sources you can point me to.
And, to be frank, the only thing I will ever credit Blair with is the systematic destruction of our society.
remittance_manToday 08:02 PMUnless I am much mistaken te picture beneath your 19:23 and 16:23 postings shows the back end of a South African Ratel APC.
Strangely I didn't think nice moral SA had sold any weapons to Gadaffi and I'm pretty sure they haven't sold anything to the rebels.
______ joeblogs333
Today 08:12 PMRecommended by
1 person Qatar flag on a Ratel APC in Benghazi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
LJB57Today 07:55 PMRecommended by
1 person The Hawks of Freedom are tearing apart, the Buzzard of Oppression.
Serg
Today 07:18 PMMuammar Gaddafi opened troops to the positions of the supporters of the National Transitional Council of the massive fire of missile installations of the "Grad". It is reported by Reuters
Fire "Grad" covered the rebel forces that were approaching the Bani Walid. According to eyewitnesses, from the city to evacuate the wounded in the shelling had left a large number of ambulances.
Serg
Today 04:13 PMRecommended by
6 peopleThe vultures are fighting over oil and gold.
Shah Islam
Today 01:48 PM
Someone elusively just completely destroyed unseen my hour-long typing of highly beneficial 'honest thoughts provoking' good comments here and I cannot rewrite because of my severe back pain this early morning hours! It is painful but I shall be trying my best to recollect my precious thoughts again!What I wrote in, as nicely as possible way, was my philosophical neutral views with examples of Somalian pirates and Pakistani, Indian, or Arabian /Semitic religiously totally blind murderers etc. that are the only threats and there are no more terrorists today in Africa unless a faceless money greedy opportunist groups or IAH's of the East and West may generate again some within a few days only just like bacterias. The growth can be too fast if there was some suppressed anger against some kind of past injustice! The more stronger anti-bacterial-type treatments are tried to be applied against, the more terroristic resistance will grow. If left alone, the vengeful bacteria-type anger or products of dysfunctional mental sickness slowly get vanished automatically; that means: the criminals do not have to be killed but with the time their minds will cure, if awareness of wrong-doing for these unwise guys is generated by Medias like you (Yahoo's digital News, other good sources of news, even Facebook etc.) and Positive healthy thinkers /writers like me and others with neutral philosophy.Please note that there shall always be some killers here and there just like recent Norwegian, US born ones that are committing heinous crimes too, but if the developing Medias of China, India tomorrow start to color the above normal criminals of the West and the bombers in the East as terrorists hired by the West (which cannot be true facts), then all of a sudden. newly rich and emerged some ego blind leaders of the East may start, just like Hitler did start wars for dumb reasons of controlling then business situations in 1912 and the killings of millions of good innocent public continued for years. We, the West in 2001, unanimously agreed or not; angry US head: the Bushes impatiently ordered war of revengeful killings and by all means, especially wanted to kill Osama. b. Laden and up until now, total how many innocent soldiers and citizens of USA, UK, Canada, France, Italy etc. have been killed? The only benefited parties are Weapon and Oil dealers of the East and West and the final outcome of war for others in the rest of the world is nothing but painful memories. The unwilling to perish humans suffered physical or mental pains of failed wishes at the very moment of their deaths and never to get back again and anywhere the lives they had right here on this planet Earth! The playful Cosmic Creator that programmed human-sense of judging, is above humanly judgment of Right and Wrong (when natural disasters kill) but not any killer human; because in its mind conscience is programmed to be in normal balanced state with "50% Rule-Good or Bad" and again human unbiasedly has only 50% control (just like the play of electron, proton and neutron) on everything including luck except few things such as birth, love, death etc..
We, the West or North-America mainly just need transparently visible or clearly identified wisest advisers as a must and then, elected or selected Head of the World leaders to continue to exist as the best humanitarian and united pioneer power in the entire political World.
sandyToday 12:26 PMRecommended by
5 peopleOMG, there are some weirdos on here today!
marth
Today 11:53 AMRecommended by
5 peopleThe Libyan Jamahiriya remains and controls the majority of Libya, and that the Libyan army and defence forces too remain intact as well as the resistance led by Muammar Qaddafi
Tripoli: There is fighting, using artillery, in the north-western suburbs. In Salah Edden, three NATO-rebel jeeps were destroyed with 6 artillery shells. Progress is being made in the southern suburb area of Azzawiya by the heavily armed soldiers of Khamis al-Gaddafi.
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______flookie
Today 05:46 PMRecommended by
1 person Your source of information?
____________ marth
Today 08:58 PMRecommended by
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______ CristinaToday 12:00 PMRecommended by
5 peopleIndeed. I find it very curious that no media has even mentioned what's going on in the Fezzan region - that's pretty much from the Nafusa Mountains down all the way to the Niger border. The whole Central and Southern region seems to be very much in Gaddafi hands.
____________ NonAlignedUK
Today 08:22 PMRecommended by
1 person The reason they aren't mentioning it is because there's nothing there
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wowgoldsvToday 09:09 AMThose pictures impress me deeply! Everytime when I enter this site, Gaddafi and Libya always at the headline.
http://goo.gl/YNrBg
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m8Yesterday 07:55 PMRecommended by
1 person I still can't get over that picture of the beaming slimy Bliar and his best buddy, Muammar..........
in_totidem_verbisYesterday 07:03 PMRecommended by
5 people"France and the United Kingdom did an extra-ordinary job and they were equally indispensable to the success of this operation", says the US ambassador to NATO.
Spoken like a back-seat driver.
SergToday 04:11 PMBetter to say - robbery.
beegdawg007Yesterday 06:40 PMRecommended by
1 person Qadaffi ... kissing his ass goodbye! Funny.....
http://doctoratlarge.files.wor...
flookieYesterday 05:44 PMRecommended by
3 peopleIt's curious; at the mention of gold the routine accusations that "the media is all lies" have disappeared. Only King (expected) is exhibiting scepticism that 29 tonnes of gold has gone. Do people unquestioningly believe such in the subconscious hope they'll lay hands on some?
______ CristinaToday 12:04 PMRecommended by
3 peopleGuess you didn't watch the press conference given by the new central bank chief who confirmed that these 29 tones of gold were sold locally and confirmed they were to pay salaries given that the sanctions meant no income for the last 6 months in a state that subsidizes heavily a whole portion of social expenses.
____________ flookieToday 02:50 PMI had already commented it was an internal sale in my replies to Catherine Carr below. Nevertheless the gold is in circulation and will not be limited by national borders.
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